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on Page 183, in which I said: "In other words, it

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seems to me to be a very obsolete provision of the

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Constitution," perhaps speaking more in ignorance than

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in knowledgeability, because I was talking about the

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very point we are now discussing. Continuing the

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quote, "and all I know about it is what I have been

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told when I was a member of the State Board and being

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a fairly close friend of Dr. Pullen for many, many

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years, but as I understand it, it was put in the Con-

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stitution to keep the politicians from playing poli-

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tics with the school system."

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Mr. Bond, a member of our Commission, said:

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"I think he said the Governor has no discretion,"

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referring to the section.

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"The Chairman: No discretion, right.

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"Dr. Sensenbaugh: He has no discretion,

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other than the fact that the figures can be refined

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by going through his Budget Bureau and Mr. Perkins,

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for instance, being an analyst, has every right to

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check our figures for statistics purposes and so does

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the --" and then I broke in and there are other points