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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Dec. 30] DEBATES 3011

^HE PRESIDENT: Oh, that can be
done.

You do not object to Delegate Rybczyn-
ski's motion because it is not printed ?

DELEGATE STERN: No, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well.
Delegate Penniman.

DELEGATE PENNIMAN: Mr. Chair-
man, I am afraid that there has been a
mistake made in the typing from our Com-
mittee. If you \\Mill look at lines 13 through
17 to the point where it has been scratched
by the amendment, and then if you read
the next sentence, you will find they are
saying exactly the same thing in slightly
different words. I think one can simply
stop at line 17, and cut the entire next
sentence. It was obvious that it inadvert-
ently got typed twice. Is it not the same?

THE PRESIDENT: I do not think so,
Delegate Penniman. One place refers to
keeping the journal, and that it is to be
open for inspection, the other place refers
to the publication.

DELEGATE PENNIMAN: The first is
to provide for a current daily journal, and
the second one calls for publishing it.

T,HE PRESIDENT: We are delaying for
a moment because the delegates who had
been requested by Delegate Storm to sub-
mit his amendment are under the circum-
stances uncertain as to what he would
want them to do, and they are telephoning
him. It will be but a moment.

Delegate Henderson.

DELEGATE HENDERSON: Mr. Presi-
dent, it seems to me we are getting into a
parliamentary hassle over what I think is
a very extremely simple proposition. This
Assembly has just voted to delete the nec-
essity for the General Assembly to keep a
transcript of its proceedings.

Now, Delegate Rybczynski's motion now
is to delete the clause which calls for the
mandatory publication of that transcript,
and I would assume that that is simply
clarifying and carries out what might well
have been included in the last vote, so that
I would assume that everybody who voted
to delete the clause requiring the keeping
of a transcript would also vote for the fact
that it need not be published. A non-exist-
ent transcript need not be published. That
is simply a clarification.

THE PRESIDENT: That is true. The
difficulty arises because two other delegates

desire to offer motions as substitutes for
the pending motion, which is what is caus-
ing the present confusion.

Delegate Henderson.

DELEGATE HENDERSON: Delegate
Gallagher's motion on the other hand,
which would substitute "may" in the pub-
lication is, I take it, quite unnecessary be-
cause the legislature would have plenary
power to do so.

Now, if we could dispose of these things,
would not the way then be open for Dele-
gate Storm's motion which would substi-
tute "audible" for the transcript called for
in the first proposal ?

THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Beatrice
Miller.

DELEGATE B. MILLER: Mr. Chair-
man, I do this with considerable reluctance,
but in view of the people here, in view of
the importance of the matter, I would ask
that we have reconsideration of this item.

THE PRESIDENT: You mean you are
moving for reconsideration of the vote by
which Amendment No. 11 was adopted?

DELEGATE B. MILLER: Yes, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: The Convention will
please come to order.

Delegate Rybczynski.

DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: Mr. Presi-
dent, in all seriousness I make this motion
in order to try to help:

I move that we adjourn until noon on
Tuesday.

THE PRESIDENT: The Clerk will ring
the quorum bell.

Sergeant-at-Arms, will you please get
delegates to move into the Chamber
quickly?

Delegate Rybczynski, your motion to ad-
journ of course has priority. The Chair, if
you desire to press it, would ask you to
amend it to make it at 10 o'clock on Tues-
day. This creates problems, because we had
wanted to have Tuesday morning for some
committee meetings.

I have been informed that you sent a
message that if the Chair wanted you to
withdraw the motion, you would do so. I
would much prefer, in view of the tightness
of time, to finish consideration of the re-
mainder of this article, except for this sec-
tion. I am frankly quite troubled that the
statement of the Chair, which I thought



 

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