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suggest again something New York has tried, where their
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"ripper" bills, in other words, stripping out the authority
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of local governments, must be passed in two consecutive
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sessions. In other words, it gets through the first
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session and doesn't take effect until the Legislature
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gets back and accomplishes it again. That's one way of
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doing it. They seemed pleased with it up in New York.
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I don't know whether it has worked this well
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or not, but I am not really too concerned about "ripper"
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bills. Perhaps I am being a little naive here, but as
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long as you have to treat all the counties or cities as
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a group, I think you can stop the "ripper" bills in the
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Legislature, at least if the counties are willing to
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stand up as a group and, if they are not willing to stand
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up, perhaps they deserve to get ripped.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr.
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Ratchford. I might suggest to Dr. Loevy, since he is
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taking dur minutes and is going to digest them with the
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aid of our missing reporter, that I contemplate asking
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when we finally get to the point where we have decided
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on our policy questions to be submitted, that there be a
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