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or whether you have a tenor of office outside of polities,
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and I found out that only about four or five did have
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some tenor of office, of which, of course, Maryland was one;
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but I also found out when I checked that every good man in
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that organization had been with the State over a period of
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years, regardless of politics. Some of them have twenty
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years of service, twenty-five years, and they were the
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ones that were very interested in comingtto that meeting.
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So, regardless of politics, it has been the
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experience in States, when they've got a good budget man;
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to keep him. Now, the real political States like Massachu-
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setts, why they would throw St. Paul out, if he didn't —
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well, the tendency has been, and from what I found out
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right there at that first, that initial meeting, that the
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people that were really doing the job were kept.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Now, New York hasl the kind of
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thing I'm talking about.
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MR. RENNIE: Yes, but New York has had only two
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budget officers over the last twenty years, that boy that
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was there initially and he went to head one of the New York
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State colleges, and the fellow who is there now, and he's
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