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and —
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MR. RENNIE: Well, let me tell you of another
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experience. When the National Association of Budget
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Officers was formed, about eighteen, twenty years ago, they
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had nineteen or twenty sessions, now, they wanted a repre-
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sentative from Maryland to attend the initial incorporation
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meeting in Chicago. Kirkman was a purchasing man primarily
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He had been President of the National Association of
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Purchasing Agents and one thing and another. He said,
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Rennie, I'm not going up there. He said, those people turr
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over so fast. You meet one group and teach them all you
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know and go back the next year and they have had an electic r
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in the State and you have an entirely new group to face and
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work with . He said, you go up. He said, I'll stick to the
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purchasing agents. So, he sent me to the meeting.
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I went to the meeting and during that initial
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meeting I asked the question of the group assembled there,
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and I think there were about twenty some States that
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appeared at that first meeting, I asked, I want to know
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what your state of employment is, as to the budget officer
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here, whether you are subject to political vicissitudes or
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