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State of Illinois has tenure by non-competitive election,

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but it does not have the nominative and appointive

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systems.

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THE CHAIRMAN: What do they use in place of

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that?

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MR. WINTERS: Well, they still have political

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election.

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MR. MARTINEAU: Would you consider that a

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defect in the Illinois system?

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MR. WINTERS: I certainly do. The original

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plan was to have approximately the same type of thing

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that you are presently thinking of, but they just were

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not able to get that much.

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MRS. BOTHE: How many states have the nomi-

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nating commission system?

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MR. WINTERS: Well, I think I can name them,

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there is Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Alaska,

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Utah has it with respect to the juvenile courts, and

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Oklahoma with respect to the juvenile courts of one city,

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Tulsa, Florida has it with respect to the metropolitan

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court of Dade County, Miami, it is used in the county