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bicameralism — we'll start off with the arguments for the

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retention of bicameralism.

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THE CHAIRMAN: That is on Page 3.

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DR. MICHENER: Yes, Page 3. The arguments have

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been that the upper house presents a vehicle for repre-

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sentation of other interests, for the property classes,

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and some of the material Mr. Brooks just sent out reflects

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this; that the early senators in the State of Maryland had

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to have 1, 000 pounds and be property owners, so that they

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would be there to prevent the popular groups, the masses

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from overwhelming the Legislature.

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MR. SCANLAN: Dr. Michener, has this argument

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seriously been advanced as a justification for bicameralism

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in 100 years?

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DR. MICHENER: No, I don't think so, and as I

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say —

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MR. SCANLAN: Woodrow Wilson in his book, The

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State, in 1896, pointed out that the bicameral justifica-

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tion was not based on principle, but expedience, tempering

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legislation. He has about just as good justification for

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it as I have ever seen, but this argument, number one,