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DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Are
there any further questions ?
If there are no further questions, we will
proceed with a section by section considera-
tion for the purpose of receiving amend-
ments on style, only.
Delegate Willoner.
DELEGATE WILLONER: I had just one
more question, getting back to "an amend-
ment." Is the same thing intended in sec-
tion 10.02, "an amendment to the constitu-
tion," as in section 10.03, "any proposal
recommended by the convention?"
Is there a difference between "proposal"
and "amendment", or are they supposed to
be synonymous ?
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Penniman.
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: I am sorry. I
am not sure what you were referring to.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Would
you repeat your question, Delegate Wil-
loner ?
DELEGATE WILLONER: In section
10.02 it provides that there can be amend-
ment to the constitution by calling a con-
stitutional convention. Is that correct?
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: That is
correct.
DELEGATE WILLONER: And in sec-
tion 10.03, on line 47, it refers to "Any
proposal recommended by the convention
for changing the constitution shall be
adopted in the same manner as amend-
ment."
Is there supposedly any difference be-
tween proposal and amendment there ?
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: Well, in this
instance, since we have provided for the
handling of an amendment in the preceding
section, the presumption was that in this
case it was the whole-hog operation of the
whole constitution.
DELEGATE WILLONER: Then it is my
understanding that it is the Committee's
understanding that section 10.03 refers to
individual amendments rather than amend-
ment of an existing constitution by a
whole new constitution; and "proposal" re-
fers to the amendment of an existing con-
stitution by a whole new Constitution, as
we are doing here?
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: I am sorry.
I am trying to find the word "amendment"
somewhere in 10.03.
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DELEGATE WILLONER: In 10.03?
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: Yes.
DELEGATE WILLONER: Lines 47
through 52.
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: That is a
"proposal recommended by the convention
for changing the constitution," which is
the way it came to us, and we presumed
that this means for the overall change of
the constitution, not the individual amend-
ments, in view of the fact that the preced-
ing one deals with the question of indi-
vidual amendments.
DELEGATE WILLONER: Well, is not a
proposal for changing the constitution an
amendment ?
DELEGATE PENNIMAN: You can re-
fer to what we are going to complete here,
God willing, by next Friday, as an amend-
ment, I suppose, but it is also a proposed
new constitution, a proposal recommended
by the convention for changing the exist-
ing constitution.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Are
there any other questions ?
(There was no response.)
If there are no other questions, we will
proceed to the section by section considera-
tion for the presentation of amendments
on style.
Section 10.01. Are there any amendments
as to style?
The Chair hears none.
We will go to section 10.02, constitutional
amendment. The Chair hearing no amend-
ments, we will proceed to section 10.03.
Delegate Needle.
DELEGATE NEEDLE: Mr. Chairman, I
have two amendments on style on section
10.03. The first one would be designated as
"E", as in excellent.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): The
Chair is happy that you are taking over
the function of keying letters to words.
This will have to be done from the floor,
because the Chair is not very versed in it.
The Clerk will read Amendment E.
Do you have copies of Amendment E?
These will be distributed by the pages.
There is some difference of opinion here
at the desk, so we will clarify it.
DELEGATE NEEDLE: Mr. Chairman,
this is a style amendment.
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