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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Oct. 25] DEBATES 293
(Call for the question.)
The question arises on the motion to
amend Resolution No. 18 by adding the
word "substantive" after the numeral 1
and before the word "committee" in line 29
on page 1, before the word "committees" in
line 1 on page 2, before the word "com-
mittee" on line 2 on page 2, to strike the
semicolon and the words "and be it fur-
ther" in lines 3 and 4 on page 2 and to
insert a period after the word "vote" in
line 3. A vote Aye is a vote in favor of the
amendment as just described, a vote No is
a vote against.
Are you ready for the question?
(Call for the question.)
All those in favor, signify by saying
Aye; contrary, No. The Ayes have it. Is is
so ordered. The question now arises again
on Resolution No. 18. Delegate Bennett.
DELEGATE BENNETT: Mr. President,
it seems to me this resolution comes pretty
late in our proceedings. Most of the work
of our committees is pretty well over. We
have appreciated and profited by the at-
tendance of our liaison member and I
would not like to see anything done here
that would discourage him in taking part
in our debates. More, if he is taken off —
and that would be by his own choosing, of
course — it would change the complexion
of our committee, the Committee on Per-
sonal Rights and the Preamble.
I would like to suggest that this ques-
tion as to whether the liaison member be
permitted to vote be left to the discretion
of the committee to which he is assigned
and thereby we will overcome a great
many of these objections. To that end, Mr.
Chairman, I move on page 2, line 3, after
the word "vote" to add the following lan-
guage. "Wherever there is objection by the
committee involved." In other words, the
last section would be that he shall be a
voting member, on the committee to which
he is assigned unless there is objection by
the committee concerned. I so move, Mr.
Chairman.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there a second to
the motion?
(The motion was duly seconded.)
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate L. Taylor
or Delegate White second the motion. Dele-
gate Lord.
DELEGATE LORD: I have a question
to the maker of the motion, and that is
what does he mean by objection by the
committee? Is it the chairman of the com-
mittee, a recognizable part of the commit-
tee, or is it a majority vote of the
committee?
DELEGATE BENNETT: I thought of
the vote of the committee but I think the
committees are capable under their rules of
determining that issue.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there any fur-
ther discussion of the motion to amend?
Delegate Kirkland?
DELEGATE KIRKLAND: I wonder if
the maker of the motion does not realize
that these gentlemen could wind up with
no vote whatsoever. I do not want to take
all the votes away from them.
THE PRESIDENT: Any further dis-
cussion of the motion to amend? The ques-
tion arises on the motion to amend Resolu-
tion No. 18 by adding after the word "vote"
and before the period in line 3 on page 2
the words, "wherever there is objection by
the committee concerned."
A vote Aye is a vote in favor of the
amendment. A vote No is a vote against
the amendment.
Are you ready for the question?
(Call for the question.)
All those in favor of the amendment,
signify by saying Aye; contrary, No. The
Noes have it. The motion is lost.
Is there any further discussion of Reso-
lution No. 18? Delegate Clagett.
DELEGATE CLAGETT: Mr. Chairman,
with a degree of brevity, which I am afraid
I have not extended to members of my
committee, I wish to make this observation
with respect to the motion and in opposi-
tion to it. That is that I find nothing what-
soever inconsistent with the one man - one
vote principle because the members who are
serving on more than one substantive com-
mittee will only have one vote when this
committee or Convention meets as a Com-
mittee of the Whole.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there any fur-
there discussion of the resolution? Delegate
Rybczynski.
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: Mr. Presi-
dent, I would suggest that Delegate Bennett
put his finger right on the entire situation
when he said why should any one, I am
paraphrasing now, why should any one
member change the complexion of so many
committees. I can not think of anything
more unfair.


 
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