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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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2470 CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION OF MARYLAND [Dec. 14]

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher,
do you yield to a question?

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: I do.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Case.

DELEGATE CASE: Delegate Gallagher,
does the word "person," in line 8, also in-
clude "corporations"?

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Well, to
the extent that a corporation is subpoenaed,
I would say that the person who represents
it is entitled to this treatment. I think un-
der the interpretation of the law that a
corporation is generally considered to be a
person in any event.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Case.

DELEGATE CASE: Does the word "leg-
islative" in line 9 include investigations
made by legislative agencies, like the State
Insurance Department or the Public Service
Commission?

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Case, the
Chair is puzzled. You regard the State In-
surance Department as a legislative agency
rather than a department of the executive
branch ?

Delegate Case.

DELEGATE CASE: The Circuit Court
of Baltimore has so held.

THE CHAIRMAN: Very well.

DELEGATE CASE: Of course, the Pub-
lic Service Commission, acting in its in-
vestigatory powers, is exercising legislative
power.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: To the ex-
tent that any of these agencies would be
found to be legislative agencies, I would
certainly agree.

THE CHAIRMAN : Delegate Kiefer.

DELEGATE KIEFER: Mr. Chairman,
first let me be sure that everyone under-
stands that none of the recommendations
contained in Personal Rights Recommenda-
tion 2 are to be considered part of section
1, which is the Bill of Rights as such. They
are part of general provisions, or wherever
else they might properly fit.

I have no personal objection to this. I
frankly do not know what "fair and just
treatment" means. I would be shocked to
believe that the policy of this State or any
of its legislative or executive investigative

bodies would be other than fair and just,
but if, as Delegate Gallagher says, this was
language that was in the draft, it is per-
fectly all right.

I do not want to be unhelpful. I am per-
fectly willing to be helpful, and if this is
desirable, I have no objection as such. It
seems a little silly to me, though.

THE CHAIRMAN: Is there any further
discussion?

Delegate Boileau.

DELEGATE BOILEAU: Mr. Chairman,
may I direct a question to Delegate
Gallagher?

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher,
will you yield to a question?

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: In my pres-
ent obliterated state I yield to a question,
yes.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Boileau.

DELEGATE BOILEAU: Do the words
"legislative or executive" also refer to local
government units?

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: They could
be so interpreted, but it is my intention,
and I believe it was the intention of the
Commission, to have them refer to the state
legislative body and its committees, that is
to say, the General Assembly, and the com-
mittees created pursuant thereto. Executive
means the State executive.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Boileau,
any further questions?

DELEGATE BOILEAU: I just have one
question, because it seems to be all-encom-
passing as it is written now, and I would
suggest if that is the import or desire of
the maker of this motion, that it be changed
so that the word "State" could somehow be
interjected.

THE CHAIRMAN: May I make an
observation?

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN: I do not believe that
the Commission was intending to limit it to
state agencies, but rather intending to em-
brace all governmental agencies within the
term "legislative or executive," if that has
any bearing on the matter.

DELEGATE GALLAGHER: That being
the case, sir, I will say this :

The language is subject to the interpre-
tation that it does not apply exclusively to
the state agencies. Since I am adopting the



 

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