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THE CHAIRMAN: The Pages will dis-
tribute Amendment S. This will be Amend-
ment No. 21.
For what purpose does Delegate Weide-
meyer rise?
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Mr.
President, I wanted to ask the Chairman
of the Committee a question for the record.
I thought that when garbage was re-
ferred to that that provision in the consti-
tution that Delegate Case sought to strike
was pure garbage and I had no idea but
what the amendment would not prevail, but
since it has prevailed and it mentions the
committees, I wonder if the Chairman
would state for the record whether or not
that includes the vote on subcommittees and
. subcommittees of subcommittees.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: You said
the amendment prevailed. The amendment
had not prevailed.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: I meant
to say I thought the amendment would pre-
vail, and I did not request to speak on it
before. Now, since the amendment is lost,
and the garbage is still in the constitution,
I think it ought to be further explained.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: This is a
highly indignant position I find myself in
but I would say, Delegate Weidemeyer, that
it is not the intention of the Committee
that this particular section shall apply to
votes of the subcommittee but only commit-
tees themselves.
THE CHAIRMAN: For what purpose
does Delegate Wheatley rise?
DELEGATE WHEATLEY: I would like
to further pursue the question raised by
Delegate Weidemeyer with Delegate Galla-
gher.
THE CHAIRMAN: State the question.
DELEGATE WHEATLEY: Would it
not be true then, Mr. Chairman, that sub-
committees then could handle these issues
that we are so interested in seeing visible
and never get to a full committee vote and
thwart it; the whole thing is, the legisla-
ture is inclined to be of that frame of mind.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is hardly a
question intended for clarification, I would
say, Delegate Wheatley. That is debate.
DELEGATE WHEATLEY: Mr. Chair-
man, I think the intent stated by the Com-
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mittee was to give advisability and as a
result of the question —
THE CHAIRMAN: That may be and
your question would have been proper while
the amendment was under discussion but
I say that I hardly think this is proper
now. It is a matter of clarification. I think
it is a continuation of debate on the amend-
ment.
Delegate Wheatley.
DELEGATE WHEATLEY: Mr. Chair-
man, I was under the impression the Com-
mittee intended to work out a compromise
on this and, therefore, I would suggest that
any comment in order of compromise would
be in order.
THE CHAIRMAN: Make your sugges-
tion to the Committee. I do not want to pro-
long the session by further colloquy be-
tween the Chairman and the delegates.
Delegate Wheatley.
DELEGATE WHEATLEY: Mr. Chair-
man, my suggestion is that if we are to be
consistent in advisability, as the suggestion
of the Committee is before us, that the an-
swer of Delegate Gallagher to Delegate
Weidemeyer suggests there are many devi-
ous ways by which the legislature, if it
chooses to do so, can avoid the advisability
sought by this provision.
THE CHAIRMAN: Please destroy the
amendment that has just been distributed
marked S. Delegate James tells me he has
had it reprinted.
Will the pages please distribute the
amendment marked A. This will be Amend-
ment No. 21.
Any delegates who have not received a
copy of the amendment please indicate to
the pages.
For what purpose does Delegate Case
rise?
DELEGATE CASE: Mr. Chairman, I
have, first, a small statement, then a ques-
tion to Delegate Gallagher that goes to the
whole subject matter that we are discussing
here this afternoon and I wonder if he
would yield.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Yes, Mr.
Chairman.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Case.
DELEGATE CASE: Delegate Gallagher,
with the greatest respect for your observa-
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