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have to stop a billion dollar program like
they did in the Redland case. This is the
point Senator James has raised. The Com-
mittee in good faith went out and resolved
the issue. It is mandatory. It means sub-
stantial compliance. There is not a reason
in the world that any judge sitting on the
circuit court would be confused about it at
all. There are other sections in here, not
only mandatory but literal like recording
the votes. There is not any question about
those but the fact the argument for the
proponents of the amendment is simply
this: that they do not think that these mat-
ters should be in the Constitution. They
should be matters of rules but when they
get back to adopting the rules you will not
find them in the rules. I urge you to op-
pose this amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Storm.
DELEGATE STORM: Mr. Chairman, I
would like to speak in favor of this amend-
ment. You know the last meeting of the
legislature was highly complimented as be-
in or one of tremendous ability and fore-
sight.
I am sure that as population changes are
reflected in redistricting and more and more
people come in from the enlightened sec-
tions of the State, they will be wanting to
do these things on their own and if you
would just publish this part of the debate
and see that the legislature gets it, we
could leave out all of this business that we
are sticking in here to cause trouble and
you will be giving them your considered
opinion. I think there is no one here who
disagrees with many of the objectives
which you have, and I think we can rely
on the legislature, since we have strength-
ened the legislative branch of our govern-
ment so beautifully, and since we have ex-
pressed our confidence and approval of their
recent actions and can expect wonderful
things from them in the future. Let's leave
it up to them to follow right as we have
laid it down in this debate for them to
follow. I think they can do this by rule. I
think they will do this by rule.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you ready for
the question?
Delegate Boyce.
DELEGATE BOYCE: Just one state-
ment, Mr. President.
I think it is very important to all of us
here, we have now agreed to give these
legislators a great deal higher salary. We
have now tried to give them advisability,
and I do not think it is up to us now to
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let them be permitted in the future to duck
their vote, so that the public does not know
it. Let's turn this amendment down. I do
not like a lot of garbage in the constitution
either. I want less and less words but it
may be important and it seems to me it
has gotten more important as the day has
worn on to vote this down.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you ready for
the question?
(Call for the question.)
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 20 to Committee Recom-
mendation LB-2. The Clerk will ring the
quorum bell.
A vote Aye is a vote in favor of Amend-
ment No. 20. A vote No is a vote against.
Cast your vote.
Has every delegate voted? Does any dele-
gate desire to change his vote?
(There was no response.)
Mr. Boyce votes No. The Clerk will re-
cord the vote.
THE CHAIRMAN: There being 50 votes
in the affirmative and G9 in the negative,
the motion is lost. The amendment is re-
jected.
Delegate Clagett.
DELEGATE CLAGETT: Mr. Chairman,
a parliamentary inquiry.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Clagett.
DELEGATE CLAGETT: The Committee
will still continue its efforts to come up
with a compromise?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: We will be
only too happy to.
DELEGATE BOROM: Mr. Chairman.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Borom.
DELEGATE BOROM: Por the record,
I made an error in my switch that time.
I meant to vote against the record.
THE CHAIRMAN: Let the record be
corrected to show that Delegate Borom's
vote was against and not for. That changes
the total, there being 49 votes in the affirm-
ative and 70 in the negative.
Delegate James, do you desire to offer
your amendment S?
DELEGATE JAMES: Yes.
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