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THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair recog-
nizes Delegate Dulany to speak to the
amendment.
DELEGATE DULANY: Mr. Chairman,
in talking with Chairman Gallagher when
he made his presentation of the Majority
Report, I made inquiry as to whether or
not there was anything in the language
which would prevent the division of a
county into several districts, if I could be
personal by using Carroll County, for ex-
ample. They would be entitled to about six
or seven tenths of a Senator.
In addition to being surrounded by Penn-
sylvania, it is surrounded by Frederick
County, Montgomery County, Howard
County and Baltimore County, and it is
conceivable under those circumstances that
Carroll County could be divided into four
senatorial districts.
The purpose of this amendment is to as-
sure that there will be an effort made to
not divide a county into more than one dis-
trict if it can be avoided.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any ques-
tions of the sponsor of the amendment?
(There was no response.)
If there are no questions, the Chair rec-
ognizes Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Mr. Chair-
man, I would agree to the extent practical,
no county should be divided so as to com-
prise more than one senate district or com-
prise more than one delegate district.
I personally feel that this would be a
decision which the commission on redis-
tricting or the General Assembly would
make, but I would have no genuine opposi-
tion to this amendment, and if it has the
effect of ameliorating any fears that mem-
bers may have, I would support it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate James?
DELEGATE JAMES: I think I know
what it means, but I am not sure. The
thing that worries me, I would just like to
ask a question of Delegate Dulany.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Dulany, do
you yield to a question?
DELEGATE DULANY: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate James.
DELEGATE JAMES: Could Carroll
County under this be divided in two parts,
one part placed in one Senatorial district
and one in another?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Dulany.
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DELEGATE DULANY: Under the
amendment as I have proposed it, Carroll
County could not be divided unless it were
determined that it was practicable to do so.
In that case it would be divided into two
senatorial districts. Under the proposal
as is under section 3.02 as recommended by
the majority of the Committee, Delegate
Gallagher stated that there was nothing to
prevent or even restrict the division of a
county of this nature into three or four
parts.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate James.
DELEGATE JAMES: Suppose it became
necessary to do this from the practical
standpoint, or from the legal standpoint,
and you have a constitutional barrier?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Dulany.
DELEGATE DULANY: Delegate James,
I do not believe there is a constitutional
barrier, because it says to the extent prac-
ticable, but we do have the problem in our
county if you will pardon me for being
personal. Carroll has about six-tenths of
a Senator, Frederick about seven-tenths
and Northern Baltimore County is not liked
too well by Southern Baltimore, so we may
very well be divided into three or four
parts.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Barrick.
DELEGATE BARRICK: I would like to
speak in favor of the amendment, although
I do not think it would serve too much
purpose, because in the situation of Car-
roll County and Frederick, it is going to be
very difficult if not impossible to divide
the districts without having either two
senatorial districts either in Carroll or
Frederick. However, if it is possible, I
would like to see something in the consti-
tution that would prevent Frederick County
from being divided up four ways which
apparently could happen under the sections
proposed by the Majority Report.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair would
like to address a question to Delegate
Dulany.
Is it the purpose of this amendment in
the case that you supposed that it would
not be possible to create a senatorial dis-
trict by adding sufficient population from
adjacent counties to Carroll County to give
it one Senator?
DELEGATE DULANY: Mr. Chairman,
it is my intention that enough population
would be added to the senatorial district to
comprise one more district in Carroll
County.
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