DELEGATE SCANLAN: Delegate
Kiefer, I could not answer it until I had
determined whether the attorney is just
advocating his own point of view. If he is,
then he is not covered by the proposed regu-
lation. If he is engaged for hire to advocate
the views of others, corporation, person,
association, what have you, then if this
regulation were in effect, that letter to you
would be an attempt to contact the delegate
and he would have to register within three
days after having done so.
Now if he was engaged by, say, the good
citizens of the Baptist and Catholics united
from your county to present their views, he
would have to register only if he came down
here and testified before your committee. At
that time he would have to register. Does
that answer your question?
DELEGATE KIEFER: I think so be-
cause this thing specifically represents a
group, and I assume he is for hire, because
it indicates that, and proposes a specific
proposal. Therefore I would assume we
would have to require him to register.
DELEGATE SCANLAN: Tell him he is
lucky he got the letter in early.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: Mr. President,
so far as I can see, this is nothing but a
splendid confession of faith.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Pullen,
the only order of business at the moment
are questions addressed to the Chairman
of the Committee for clarification. Are you
going to ask a question?
DELEGATE PULLEN: I ask why we
do not proceed to vote upon it and trust to
Providence to pull us through.
THE PRESIDENT: Are there any
further questions?
DELEGATE SCANLAN: Is he regis-
tered?
THE PRESIDENT: If not, Delegate
Scanlan, you may make—I am sorry, Dele-
gate Della.
DELEGATE DELLA: Mr. Scanlan,
should this report be adopted, how will the
lobbyists be informed that we have a rule
on our books requiring them to register?
DELEGATE SCANLAN: I apologize,
Senator Della, I was going to say that if
the recommendation, however amended, is
adopted by the Convention today, we would
move that the regulation be printed as an
appendix with the rules when those rules |
are either finally printed or finally mimeo-
graphed, whatever the form of the distribu-
tion of the rules may be.
THE PRESIDENT: Any further ques-
tions? Delegate Scanlan, you may make
your motion.
DELEGATE SCANLAN: Mr. President,
before I formally move adoption of the reso-
lution, I would just like to move two amend-
ments, one completely stylistic. Wherever
the word resolution occurs in our proposed
regulations and in our report, it should
read "regulation." The reason for that is,
the rule that we adopted in July, Rule
69 [73]* of the Rules, states that the Con-
vention may by resolution issue rules or
regulations with respect to the registration
and appearance of lobbyists. In effect our
purpose is to make this a regulation regard-
ing lobbyists and therefore I move you, sir,
that wherever the word resolution appears
in our proposed regulation, and in our re-
port, that it be read as "regulation."
THE PRESIDENT: Technically I think
probably the motion to approve the resolu-
tion ought to be before you first, but I do
not think there is any objection. The Chair
will rule that in the absence of objection,
any objection, the stylistic amendment just
suggested by the committee will be made.
Is there any objection at all?
THE PRESIDENT: Hearing none, the
resolution is amended so as to substitute
for the word resolution wherever it appears
in the body of the proposal, the word "regu-
lation."
DELEGATE SCANLAN: The second
proposed committee amendment is substan-
tive. It is the one to which I referred earlier,
namely, the suggestion of Delegate Morgan
that in the last line of page 4, section 7, of
the proposed regulation, dealing with con-
tingent compensation, the last line thereof,
now reading "contingent upon such adop-
tion or defeat," be eliminated, and that
there be substituted for the language read-
ing "that is determined"—
THE PRESIDENT: Read that again,
Mr. Scanlan; the substitute language is
what?
DELEGATE SCANLAN: "That is deter-
mined in whole or in part, with reference
to the result accomplished."
That is a slightly broader coverage than
we had and more consistent with the statu-
tory regulation on the subject.
DELEGATE BAMBERGER: Say that
again, please. |
