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appoint, am I right up to this point?

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THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Grant.

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DELEGATE GRANT: It covers the heads of the

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departments who serve at the governor's pleasure which is

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indicated in the article to be so far 20 people. If they

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serve at his pleasure then he can remove them whether

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they serve for a definite or indefinite term. He can re-

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move an appointed official if he serves for an indefinite

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term. He cannot remove if he is serving a definite term.

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Unless he is one of the officials serving at/pleasure.

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There are going to be 20 of them serving at/pleasure as

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the Constitution now stands.

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THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Case.

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DELEGATE CASE: I suggest to you that Section 4.22

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of the executive branch says exactly that. That the heads

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of principal departments do so serve and serve at the

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pleasure of the governor, so I take it from what you are

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saying is that the heads of those departments would not be

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affected by this section. Isn't that true, Section 4.22?

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THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Grant.

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DELEGATE GRANT: That is correct, they are already