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language such as proposed here.

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As I have said earlier, the records have been

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held -- the word "records" has been held to mean the more

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finalized public records, so the notes between the Governor

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and his aide are certainly not within the usual sense

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records.

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Again, we do now have a common -law right to

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records. The aspect of prior notice will be something

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that, of course, the court will have to interpret. By this

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we mean reasonable notice. I would certainly think two

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hours' notice as the Arkansas approach is, would certainly

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be appropriate notice.

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The enforcement of this would only be by way of

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injunction or mandamus, and it would be only to open the

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meeting or to make the records available. That is essentially

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what this provision says, it changes the burden from the

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citizen to prove he has the right to these records and to

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attend these meetings, and to have notice of these meetings,

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and for the state to show he does not have that right.

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If there are any questions, I will he glad to

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answer them.