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Bergen. I cannot say butt that itt might be drank butt I
know nothing of itt nor did I hear itt drank.
Question. Did you hear any in Company that day say the
Duke of Mon: was alive ?
Bergen Noe.
Ques: Did you hear any say or discourse that day in that
Company that York was a Bloody Rogue or that he had
poisoned his Brother ?
Bergen Noe.
Ques: Did you hear any say that the Duke of York was
the Invention of the burning of London ?
Bergen Noe.
Phillip Bergen was then ordered to withdraw and Ralph
Chiffem called and reexamined (vizt)
Question. Did you hear itt said that day you were at Ber-
gen's about which you have already been examined that the
Duke of Monmouth is alive ?
Chiffem Yes I did hear such words spoken
After much humming and hesitation the said Chiffem being
asked what he heard concerning the Duke of Monmouth he
then denyed the answere he made to the last question and
sayes he knowes nothing of anything that was sayd about the
Duke of Monmouth Butt appeared very obstinate and un-
willing to make answere to any question, only he said there
was three men more in their Company to witt Edward Blay
Abraham Strand and his wife and Edward Lademore who
stayed all the day till Night.
Ques: What healths did you hear drank att that time?
Here he could not be brought to give any positive answer.
Ques. What discourse had you coming down ?
Chiffem. Wee thought itt would goe hard with us but
hoped you would be favourable to us & not give creditt to
such a person.
Then was he ordered to withdraw and Francis Child again
called and re-examined.
Ques: Since you heard those words spoken had you noe
discourse with Giles Porter ?
Child. Wee onely wished that the innocent might be
cleared.
Ques: How long did Blay, Strand and Lademore stay after
dinner att Porter's that day ?
Child. Blay stayd not long, Strand and his wife stayd till
duskish and Lademore went away presently after dinner.
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Liber B.
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