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of people have tried it, but it is terribly hard to do.
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If you leave out something, you haven't achieved your pur-
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poses as to that.
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THE CHAIRMAN: In New York an excellent committee
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worked diligently to try to define and carce to that very
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conclusion, that it couldn't be done without being unduly
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restrictive.
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MR. MELVIN: May I ask, Dean Fordham, do you have
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any strong feelings about allowing the Legislature to say
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vhat these express powers are?
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DEAN FORDHAM: Of course, the Legislature has
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that now. That is a general pattern now. In the'ordinary
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State situation, the Legislature being the supreme over
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local government, it has that power. I don't have any ob-
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jection to that if we can get the Legislature revitalized.
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MR. MELVIN: Couple that with the provision
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that the Legislature cannot under any circumstances pass
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a law which pertains to less than two counties --
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DEAN FORDHAM: Exactly, should be coupled with
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that, the prohibition upon this local type legislation.
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DR. LOEVY: Could I ask a question in this field
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