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1	MR. DONAHO: I don't think the public schools
2	are any more important than the Department of Health. They
3	think they are, and they should think they are or they
4	shouldn't be in the business, nor should Dr. Jenkins, as
5	far as his institution is concerned. After all, these
6	people are built-in pressure group leaders and they ought
7	to be. It's their job to make their wants known as
8	vigorously and as intelligently as possible, but Charles
9	G. Dawes, when he was Federal Budget Director, said it was
10	the job of the Budget Director to relegate the department
11	heads to the subordinate position to which they properly
12	belong, and, by God, that's right.
13	When I went to the Budget Bureau, John was
14	telling me about his experiences in New York, but when I
15	went to the Federal Government of the ripe age of twenty-
16	five, and I found myself calling up Jim Forestal on the
17	telephone and telling him to get on his bicycle and get
18	over to the Budget Bureau as fast as he could get there,
19	I said to myself this is really the exercise of considerab]
20	authority; but I had to recognize, why did he come, because
21	I was the personal representative of the President of the