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at the time that George Delia was President of the Senate,

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in those years, and I don't know how many years he was

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President, one or two, that they came up with, I think it

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originated probably with Mrs. Hoffman, she was with Fiscal

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Research then, to let the legislature transfer the budget

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cuts to another State agency. In other words, whatever you

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cut out in one place, they can increase in the other.

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Well, I got wind of this and immediately went to

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the Attorney General about it and went to George Delia

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about it, and the thing was squashed. However, to my

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amazement, she stated at that time that Carl Everstine

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concurred in this. Well, if you know Carl Everstine's

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views, Carl has always been a legislative man. He thinks

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that the legislature should be supreme in practically every

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thing, which is, of course, directly contrary to an executi

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budget system; but that thing died at that time and it has

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never been brought up since.

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I can remember this as an instance of the kind

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of thing that could happen or might happen if it hadn't

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been caught and squelched right away because, of course,

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I don't think it would have held up legally under the