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might be summarized by saying that the University doesn't

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attempt to do the job, but it attempts to work with the

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unit of local government on how the job might be done;

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in other words, to set up the arrangements for it, to make

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the basic plans for it and carry it out.

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That involves a good bit of specific coopera-

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tion with the local units of government.

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THE CHAIRMAN: Well, of course, I think what we

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are talking about would have a little more positive

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function than that, and what has been done in other

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states. Now, we have touched upon Pennsylvania, New York,

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Massachusetts. What has been done in other states would

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certainly be quite important.

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DR. BURDETT: Now you are getting to quite a

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fundamental matter. I gather that the tradition in

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Maryland generally is to be of assistance and to be of

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good fellowship with local governments, but not to con-

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trol them in any matters of policy within the law. In

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Pennsylvania, I gather the situation is quite different.

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One of our staff alumnus is a city manager in Pennsylvania

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and he says the amount of State regulation and actual