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MRS. FREEDLANDER: Isn't true that the exist-

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ing Constitution does state that the General Assembly

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shall establish free public schools?

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DR. PULLEN: Yes.

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MRS. FREEDLANDER: It is already in the hands

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of the legislature.

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DR. PULLEN: In the final analysis, I'm not

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quite sure we're on the same point here. What I'm trying

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to say, from a practical standpoint, the Governor puts

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in — he has to put in his budget the appropriations for

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schools according to law, public schools, but he can

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also go in there and put in the budget a lot of other

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things that he wants himself and the legislature — if

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he has enough power, if he has enough patronage and

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enough veto power and so on, he can put in a lot of

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things. Again, I hope I'm not making charges. I'm

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talking about government, not personalities.

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MRS. FREEDLANDER: But, in the existing

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formula which has been devised by you during your

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distinguished terra as Superintendent of Schools, the

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whole question of the formula, which is so fine in