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show anything interesting because they were busy with that

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80-20 formula on reapportionment.

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THE CHAIRMAN: Well, we really have finished

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right on the button and we have these people to thank.

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I know that this leads us directly into the two questions

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which we used as a basis for opening and that is where do

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we stand in connection with the subject and, secondly,

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irrespective of whether we hold one position as superior

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to the other as a committee, where do we stand in respect

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to whether we shall include both of these issues in the

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working papers; and here, as I understand it, we must

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submit this question to the Commission as a whole and it

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will be with this question that we shall open up

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Wednesday's meeting and then, hopefully, I guess through

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some other questions that we ought to submit, such as

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the one dealing with whether our reapportionment position

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be one of specifics, such as the constitution now includes,

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or will it be more in line with the kind of generalized,

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ceiling and floor position, with regard to representation,

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which the model includes.

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Now, Dr. Winslow has some copies of his paper