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all of us, so that we might see it in proper perspective.

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I was very much interested in your categorization of the

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three stages.

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I wonder, procedurally, if we were to take,

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let us say before we open up this for discussion, if we

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would take no more than ten minutes, and I don't want in

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any sense to state this will be our procedure, but it is

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a possibility, for a break and to bring up here our own

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sandwiches and coffee which we can get downstairs and

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then continue and pursue this while we are having our

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sandwich and coffee, and while we hear from Mr. Kentner

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and Dr. Wheeler.

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We have brought Mr. Kentner here as a native

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of Nebraska who will bring together some of this history

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Dr. Graves has described with a good deal of vividness and

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personal relationship up to date, because I am sure he,

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like I, couldn't help but to think of the great debate

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that went through the State of Nebraska as to whether

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they should even put a bust in that statuary hall where

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they have the bust of Lincoln; after thirty years, this

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occurred. So, he is still a symbol.