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been emotional. They were walking along the street.

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Senator Toll said, this experiment that you are inaugurating

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here today — Senator Norris stopped in his tracks stone

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still and stared at him. Mr. Toll realized that he had

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committed some grievous error. I beg your pardon, Senator;

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this demonstration. Well, that was all right.

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Another interesting sideline, what happens if

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you make a change of this sort? I. always thought this was

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really amazing, that a man with the experience that

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Senator Norris had could apparently be so completely

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naive in his reaction to a situation such as this. The

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vote was in November, naturally, in 1934. A month later,

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the council of state governments had its assembly of the

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states. They used to call it the interstate assembly, in

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those days, and they are always held in Chicago now, but

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in those days they met around in different cities and

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that particular one was held right here, in this City at

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the Lord Baltimore Hotel.

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I remember that I came down, as I frequently

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did, to sit in on those meetings, at which the current

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issues were discussed for the benefit of legislators in