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higher education up there, I know the influence of the
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lobbyist is quoted. So, they have their share of them,
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and I will let Mr. Kentner talk about that.
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MR. BROOKS: Let me add one thing relevant to
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this before we get back to the other part of the paper.
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I think part of the points about lobbyists is a weighing
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of the degree of impact lobbyists should have on the
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legislature, not that they should be available as legis-
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lative specialists on particular legislation. They
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definitely have a value in that regard, but I think the
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question is should they be the paramount influence as far
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as outside nonlegislator influence is concerned, and the
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point in regard to unicameral legislation is if you have
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a simpler system of legislation, then the general public
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understands it and can also influence legislation.
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Whereas, under a bicameral system, it is argued
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that the lobbyist is a legislative technician himself and
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part of his value, fifty per cent of his trade, so to
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speak, is knowing the technical procedures that legisla-
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tion has to go through in order to ever eventually be
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enacted and to know the committee system, and therefore
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