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I know that Delegate Bradshaw is a very
able man, served with him in the legisla-
ture. My next question to him is this:
Could he give this broken down to me be-
fore we vote on this thing — we are not
going to vote on it tonight — so I can see
how he arrives at this? I want to write
this thing in the record, how much it will
cost.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Bradshaw,
Delegate Malkus asks whether it will be
possible for you to obtain for him a break-
down of the figure of $250,000 to show how
much of it would be attributable to increase
where necessary, the salary of superior
court judges to the annual salary of
$30,000. Would that be possible?
DELEGATE BRADSHAW: Mr. Chair-
man, I doubt that that would be possible.
I have a tremendous amount of raw data
here which has not been collated, and I
would have to have the assistance of some
statistician, or perhaps Dr. Cooper himself.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair will as-
sign somebody to Delegate Bradshaw in an
effort to get the information.
Do you have another question, Delegate
Malkus?
DELEGATE MALKUS: I certainly do,
Mr. President. As I understand it, then,
I will have a complete breakdown as to
how this is going to cost the State of Mary-
land only $250,000 to put these first eleven
sections into effect with a uniformity of
salary.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is not what I
said. I said we would get for you the in-
formation as to how Dr. Cooper arrived
at his figure of $250,000; how much of it
is attributable to the necessity of increas-
ing superior court judges' salary to $30,000.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Now, Mr. Presi-
dent —
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Malkus.
DELEGATE MALKUS: I ask you the
question, or anybody else the question, how
much is it going to cost overall; and I
would like to have that broken down.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Bradshaw.
DELEGATE BRADSHAW: That is a
more monumental undertaking than the
first question, and I would have to appeal
to the Chair for some substantial assist-
ance.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Malkus.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Mr. President,
can we get that before the vote on this?
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THE CHAIRMAN: I have no idea
whether you can or not. I would be g-lad to
have Delegate Bradshaw ask Dr. Cooper,
or be glad to have Dr. Cooper talk to you.
If the information is available, it will be
made available to you.
Delegate Malkus.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Mr. President,
I would also like to have some considera-
tion to having this projected, because at
the present rate of increase in judges —
that if we are going to judge the future
by viewing the past, it will not be long
before there will be more superior court
judges in Maryland than there will be
members of the General Assembly.
That is something I think, Mr. Presi-
dent, that this great body should take into
consideration, overall cost.
I know it is easy to say $250,000.
THE CHAIRMAN: This is a question
period, Delegate Malkus.
DELEGATE MALKUS: All right, sir.
I guess Mr. President, I voted for this
"gag" rule not knowing what I was voting
for, but you told me — I believe anything
you tell me — that you would let me talk as
much as I wanted to.
(Laughter.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Not quite.
DELEGATE MALKUS: I think you
will, Mr. President. You are a great man.
Now, I would like to talk to the Chair-
man and direct a question to him. I refer
you, Mr. Chairman, to section 5.08. There
shall be at least one superior court judge
resident in each county. If I understand
6.10, it is very possible that there will not
be a district . court judge in each county.
Am I right so far in my statement?
DELEGATE MUDD: Yes, sir; except
the later decision is up to the legislature,
not this Committee or the Constitutional
Convention.
DELEGATE MALKUS: That is all we
are talking about now, the Constitution —
Is it not true, Mr. Chairman that my state-
ment is correct?
DELEGATE MUDD: Yes, sir.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Why is it more
important to have a circuit court judge, as
we know him, in every county, and not a
people's court judge or a trial magistrate
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