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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Nov. 9] DEBATES 579
THE CHAIRMAN: Does any other dele-
gate desire to speak in favor of the amend-
ment to the amendment?
Delegate Neilson?
DELEGATE NEILSON: Mr. Chairman,
I rise to support Mr. Rybczynski, because I
believe that his substitute motion or amend-
ment is a much better one than authored
by Mr. Lord and Mr. Case.
However, at the proper time I will push
the button as hard as I can against it, be-
cause 1 support the Committee in its rec-
ommendation of single-districts.
1 concur' with Delegate dark and his re-
marks that single-member districts will
spread the representation as far as we can
to the rural areas.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair recog-
nizes Delegate Raley to speak in opposition
to the amendment to the amendment.
DELEGATE RALEY: Mr. Chairman, I
would like to ask a question of Chairman
Gallagher if it is in order.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher,
do you yield for a question?
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Yes, sir.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Raley.
DELEGATE RALEY: Delegate Galla-
gher, as I understand it, you are for
single-member districts, but are in favor
of the Rybczynski amendment because it
provides flexibility that is not given in the
Lord-Case amendment, that is, flexibility
that would permit either an at-large dele-
gate or a district delegate. Is that correct?
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: I am sorry,
1 possibly misled you in that respect. If the
Case-Lord proposal were to pass, and I
am opposed to it, I would prefer to see it
passed as Mr. Rybczynski has changed it.
However, I am against it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Raley?
DELEGATE RALEY: Well, Mr. Galla-
gher, then why do you want the Rybczynski
amendment?
What is your reasoning on it?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: I was un-
der the impression that we would first take
up the Rybczynski amendment to the
amendment, and then move to the amend-
ment itself. That is not the case. As I
understand it, since the Rybczynski amend-
ment is really a substitute for the Case-
Lord amendment, I am going to vote
against it. However, if it passes, I will be
happier with it than I would have been
had the Lord-Case proposal passed. In other
words, I would like to say that I am for the
Committee report, and I am against the
attempt to change it, but if there is to be
a change, I prefer the kind of change which
Mr. Rybczynski has given us.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Raley.
DELEGATE RALEY: You are for that
change because there would be greater
flexibility, there could be either at-large
delegate districts, or single-member dele-
gate districts? As I read it, I think that is
what it says.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Assuming
that one gets the change, which I am op-
posed to, the reason that I would prefer
the Rybczynski one is that I believe it re-
quires that the three delegates either run
within the single-senatorial district, or that
the single-senatorial district be divided into
three separate districts, so that it is either
an at-large running of three or the three
running compartmentalized within the
single senatorial district.
I do not like the possibility of two dele-
gates running within districts, that is, a
single senatorial district, and then (me
running at large, which nobody has said
anything about, but which I have had in
the back of my mind since the debate began.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair will have
to limit you to questions at this time. There
are too many others seeking to debate. Does
any other delegate desire to speak in oppo-
sition to the amendment to the amendment?
Delegate White?
DELEGATE WHITE: Mr. Chairman,
I am disturbed about the use of the word
"visibility." It seems that the term "visi-
bility" has a value to certain members of
the Convention which my experience does
not lead me to share. Possibly this is the
first time I have been invisible for the last
fifteen or twenty minutes. I finally have
the mike, but on those occasions during my
long life when I was visible under the con-
ditions which prevailed in Maryland, my
visibility always worked to my disadvan-
tage. Although I am going to vote against
this amendment, I hope that we can find
another word in arguing in behalf of the
resolution for which I shall vote.


 
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