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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Nov. 9] DEBATES 575
The reason I am voting for Mr. Rybczyn-
ski's amendment to the amendment is that
if the Case-Lord amendment should pass
— and if it does, it will be passed over our
opposition — I would prefer to see it in the
form in which Mr. Rybczynski would have
it as a result of his amendment.
However, in answer to Mr. Dulany, I
would point out that I think there is no
choice but to team up with another county
under the three-to-one ratio. I think it
must be done. I do not believe there is any
choice in the matter.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher,
the chair is uncertain, and perhaps the
other delegates are, as to your answer. If
Delegate Rybczynski's amendment to the
amendment fails, there will be before the
Committee of the Whole the amendment of
Delegate Case and Delegate Lord. If Dele-
gate Rybczynski's amendment is adopted,
then we have before us the amendment of
Delegate Case and Lord as thus amended,
the substitute; so that in effect you would
be voting twice. You would, then, be voting
on the question of Delegate Rybczynski's
plan versus the Committee Report.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: I wish to
make it clear that I am voting against
Delegate Case and Lord's proposals. Alter-
natively, when we finally reach the ques-
tion, I am voting in favor of the Committee
recommendation that there be one delegate
and one senator per district.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does any other dele-
gate desire to speak in opposition to the
amendment to the amendment?
Delegate Bamberger.
DELEGATE BAMBERGER: A point of
parliamentary inquiry: as I understand
the last comment of the Chair, and as I
understand the intention to vote as ex-
pressed by the Chairman of the Committee
of the Legislative Branch, if the amend-
ment proposed by Delegate Rybczynski is
adopted by this Committee of the Whole,
we will then have another vote on those
same words. We will never vote on the
words which are contained in the amend-
ment proposed by Delegates Case and Lord.
Is that correct?
THE CHAIRMAN: That is correct, sir.
In other words, if Delegate Rybczynski's
amendment is passed, it is substituted for
the amendment of Delegates Case and Lord
and you would then vote on that substitute.
Delegate Bamberger.
DELEGATE BAMBERGER: I should
like to ask the Chairman of the Committee
on the Legislative Branch if he would yield
to a question.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: I will.
DELEGATE BAMBERGER: Would you
care to clarify?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: lhad been
under the impression that we were going to
vote on Mr. Rybczynski's amendment to the
amendment, then pass on to the amendment
as offered by Mr. Case and Mr. Lord. But
if they are going to be consolidated, nat-
urally I will vote against bath at the
outset.
THE CHAIRMAN: That confuses the
Chair completely. Let me again state what
the posture of the matter will be so far as
putting the question to you is concerned.
You now have before you Amendment No.
1 to Amendment No. 11. The Chair moves
that this will be treated as a substitute for
Amendment No. 11. Therefore, a vote in
favor of Amendment No. 1 is a vote to
substitute it for Amendment No. 11.
If that carries, it means that the Com-
mittee of the Whole has made the substitu-
tion, and it then has before it Amendment
No. 11 as substituted, which is to say, it
has before it for adoption or rejection the
substance of the amendment proposed by
Delegate Rybczynski. If it fails, if the mo-
tion to amend the amendment fails, then
the matter before the Committee of the
Whole is Amendment No. 11 of Delegate
Case and Lord.
Now, is there any further debate? Does
any delegate desire to speak in opposition
to Amendment No. 1?
Delegate Carson.
DELEGATE CARSON: Mr. Chairman,
I think that the point made by Delegate
Dulany is correct, that the Rybczynski
proposal does not offer the flexibility that
the Case-Lord proposal does. For example,
as I view it, the Case-Lord proposal would
permit a delegate district of two delegates,
combined with an adjacent delegate district
of one, all three comprising one senatorial
district.
Now, I think for his county and for the
shore, that difference might be important.


 
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