One of those additional ones will go to
a small county, one of them will go to a
middle-sized county.
What we are arguing over, ladies and
gentlemen, are two delegates.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does any other dele-
gate desire to speak in opposition to the
amendment to the amendment?
Delegate. Rybczynski.
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: Mr. Presi-
dent, Mr. Chairman, fellow members of the
Committee of the Whole:
I want to touch on two points which I
believe have not been touched on so far.
We are not building a computer without
spare parts. We are building a body for
legislation. Not all people who will come
here will be experienced people. I believe
that there should be room for starters and
beginners.
Now, I have here a newspaper from our
election showing all of the tally. I do not
want to call names; however, if you will
look at this paper, and I will be happy to
distribute it, I think you will realize that
the winners of a multiple election such as
this are not necessarily the leaders of the
group.
I have placed a little dot next to the
lows, or the winner getting the lowest num-
ber of votes in each section. If you will
follow me you will find that we eliminate
34 people from this body. That leaves us
with 108, which is approximately the size
called for.
The two points that I want to make are
these: first, the people who can acquire the
greatest number of votes back home are not
necessarily the people who will do the most
effective work in this body.
Second, I want to state that if you de-
crease the number of potential winners in
a municipal race, (and in our district we
run approximately 35 people in each one
of these races), you make the election much
more expensive. Very often a young man or
woman can win on affiliations and family
and popularity in his own group, as op-
posed to the person who must spent a lot
of money to put himself before the com-
munity for the first time.
I would suggest that we not overlook
our voting board. In multiple elections, A-M
will greatly outshine N-Z, only because of
the alphabet simply because they happen
to be in a certain position on the voting |
machine. A great portion of the people
who are on the board today could very well
have been eliminated, simply because they
might have been in the wrong position on
the machine.
I strongly suggest that a higher figure
is needed for these two reasons. I would
strongly favor defeating this amendment
and voting for Judge Sherbow's amend-
ment.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair recognizes
Delegate Clagett to speak in favor of the
amendment to the amendment.
DELEGATE CLAGETT: Mr. Chairman,
my remarks will be most brief. They are
primarily an endorsement or affirmation of
the figures given by Delegate Hanson just
a moment ago, because I did refer to Dele-
gate Proposal No. 224 and did follow the
same mathematical computation, and did
find that only ten counties are being af-
fected by this surgery. Of that ten, the
choice between the 120-40 and the 36-108
affects only two counties, one of them by a
very small population count. Therefore, I
feel that they are not really accomplishing
any substantial purpose in the prolongation
of this debate, and I would like to see us go
ahead and vote on the 36-108 ratio. I am
in favor of it.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Chair recognizes
Delegate Weidemeyer to speak inopposition
to the amendment.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Mr. Pres-
ident and Members of the Convention:
I think all this talk about just three
committees is just so much talk. I would
say that we are at least going to have five
committees. We will have the three major
committees mentioned by the chairman, and
if we rush through this Convention in such
a manner that the people do not adopt this
Constitution, or if we act hastily and make
a lot of mistakes, we are going to need two
additional committees on the revision of
Constitutional law.
I would say that because we would be
making so many mistakes by acting hastily
and rushing this thing along there would
be one committee on Constitutional law and
revisions that could not take care of it all,
and so that a second one would bring the
total to five committees. I do not know un-
der these circumstances where you are go-
ing to get all the constitutional lawyers and
constitutional experts out of a House of
108.
I would say that in 142 we would prob-
ably have more constitutional lawyers and |
