but I think if we are going to go into
this very serious subject matter and throw
these numbers around, we ought to be
able to answer the questions.
I do not think that is too unreasonable,
when we ask about a proposal, and know
what the average population in the House
and the Senate will be.
We are in a serious business now. We are
not just playing tiddlywinks and talking
a lot to be heard. These are things we
ought to know. I want to defend the Gen-
eral Assembly in Maryland. Usually when
they come to the floor in such a case, they
do know what they are talking about.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: On the
basis of the 36 senators, Senator Malkus,
using the 1970 projected population of
3,960,000, you would have per senate dis-
trict, 110,000 persons represented, and per
house district, 36,200 persons represented.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Malkus.
DELEGATE MALKUS: What are the
figures for the 1960 census which we are
still operating under?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher?
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Senator,
the round figure is 3,100,000, but I will
give it to you precisely in a moment.
DELEGATE E. CLARKE: 3,188,000.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Thank you
very much. 3,188,000.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Of course, I
knew what the population of the State of
Maryland was. Anybody in this honorable
body knows what that is, or should know
what it is.
I want to know how many people the
House and Senate would be representing,
applying the formula under this proposal to
the 1960 census.
THE CHAIRMAN: I assume that Dele-
gate Gallagher thought you could make the
division, but I see he is doing so. If you
will give him a moment, he will give you
the figure.
DELEGATE MALKUS: Mr. President,
I am not very good at arithmetic.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Malkus, if
you will bear with him, he will have it for
you in just a moment. |
DELEGATE MALKUS: Thank you very
much; I will wait.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Gallagher.
DELEGATE GALLAGHER: Mr. Chair-
man, in round figures, if you apply 36 and
108 on the basis of the 1960 census, you
would have one senator per 88,000, and one
house member per 29,000 population.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I did not
know if the delegate from Dorchester
County was through or not.
THE CHAIRMAN: Had you finished
your inquiries, Delegate Malkus?
DELEGATE MALKUS: Mr. President,
I am going to have to take the gentleman's
word for it.
I am going to have to look into it and
get my auditor to go ahead and figure this
thing out, but I question as to whether
these figures are right. I mean, they do
not look right to me. I haven't figured
them out; I am going to have to do some
further work on them.
THE CHAIRMAN: To give you an op-
portunity to do this, in order to have the
record, I will ask the Clerk at the moment
to read Amendment No. 1 to Amendment
8 to Committee Recommendation LB-I.
READING CLERK: Amendment No. 1
to Amendment No. 8 to Committee Recom-
mendation No. LB-I, by Delegates Bam-
berger, Hanson and Sollins: In line 4 of
Amendment No. 8, strike out the words
"one hundred twenty" and insert in lieu
thereof the words "one hundred eight."
THE CHAIRMAN: Does Delegate
Weidemeyer desire to speak against the
amendment?
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: I just
want to call to .the Chair's attention and
to the delegates that if they are interested
in the population figures of the state and
the various counties, they will find those
figures in the memorandum accompanying
Proposal 224.
THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
Does any delegate desire to speak in
opposition to Amendment No. 1 to Amend-
ment No. 8?
Delegate Sherbow?
DELEGATE SHERBOW: Mr. Chair-
man, ladies and gentlemen of the Commit- |