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DELEGATE HARDWICKE: I yield to
Chairman Mudd, Chairman of the Judicial
Branch Committee.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding) : The
Chair believes there are some provisions in
the pension system law that put some bar-
riers against that type situation.
Chairman Mudd.
DELEGATE MUDD: I hope so, Mr.
Chairman.
I think the best thing to do is dissuade
the government from creating that sort of
situation.
DELEGATE DELLA: Mr. President.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding) : Dele-
gate Della.
DELEGATE DELLA: Delegate Hard-
wicke, with reference to the pensions of
the district court —
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: Are you
talking about section 22?
DELEGATE DELLA: In section 22,
subsection B, are you taking into consid-
eration the pension that the municipal
court judges are now receiving and will
that be transferred over to the pension
fund?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: If they are
full-time and they are full-time.
DELEGATE DELLA: Are they full-
time?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: Yes.
DELEGATE DELLA: I think they get
a pension now. Will we need legislation to
carry that over?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: I do not
think so.
DELEGATE DELLA: It is a different
rate from what you have. It is a question
of whether they get the number of years
of service.
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: We have a
general provision that there is a credit
carried over from any court to the other
court.
DELEGATE DELLA: Can you tell me
where that is?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: It is sub-
paragraph 2, page 24, under section D,
Delegate Della.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding) : Dele-
gate Hargrove.
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DELEGATE HARGROVE: Delegate
Hardwicke, under the present system, a
judge or a person appointed judge who
serves a period of time and is not elected,
does not receive a pension. Does this pro-
vide for such a contingency if, for example,
you serve close to three years, and then
not be retained in office, I believe, you
would get a pension under this provision
when you reach sixty for at least those
three years? Is there any provision for
such a situation?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: Delegate
Hargrove, he is entitled to the pension as
soon as he commences actual service. The
pension is not paid, however, until he
reaches the age of sixty. That is in these
provisions.
DELEGATE HARGROVE: This is some-
what different from the provisions. Is that
correct? I understand under the present
provision you do not receive a pension un-
less you are elected?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: That is
correct.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding) : Dele-
gate Gill.
DELEGATE GILL: Mr. Chairman, Del-
egate Hardwicke, I would like to address
my question to three sections, 22, 23, and
24, since they all refer to the judicial pen-
sion, and pensions of spouses, and pensions
of former judges. I understand that about
the same system exists that you have in
the schedule of legislation.
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: In general,
that is correct.
DELEGATE GILL: Would they be af-
fected? Would any of them stop if you did
not include this in the schedule of legisla-
tion? Would they be affected in any way
if we did not write this all out in the
legislation?
DELEGATE HARDWICKE: It has been
our purpose to make uniform throughout
the state pension plans which are not now
uniform, and, in general, we have followed
the provisions of the Legislative Council
bill which was designed to do that very
thing, regardless of whether this constitu-
tion goes into effect. If we fail to put this
legislation in and if the Legislative Coun-
cil bill failed to go through, you would
pick up the hodgepodge of things you now
have.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding) : Dele-
gate Gill.
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