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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Jan. 2] DEBATES 3091

DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: I do not
know. I will add, however, to that answer
that I am not aware of any transcript to
be taken after this January 12. I will be
surprised if any is taken because we have
no life after this January 12, to my un-
derstanding.

THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Neilson.

DELEGATE NEILSON: Mr. Chairman,
before Mr. Rybczynski made his statement
that the most important work done in Com-
mittee, I suggest our Committee did a very
good job putting this in. I would vote for
reconsideration and would suggest or fur-
ther move that we move the previous
question.

THE PRESIDENT: Is there a second?
(The motion was duly seconded.)

THE PRESIDENT: Regularly moved
that the previous question be ordered. All
those in favor, signify by saying Aye;
contrary, No. The Ayes have it. It is so
ordered.

The question arises on the motion to re-
consider the vote by which Amendment No.
11 to Committee Recommendation LB-1,
LB-2, and LB-3 as amended by Report
S&D-16, was adopted. The Clerk will
please ring the quorum bell. The question
arises on the motion to reconsider the vote
by which Amendment No. 11 was adopted.

A vote Aye is a vote in favor of recon-
sideration of Amendment No. 11. A vote
No is a vote against. This is not a vote on
the amendment. It is a vote on reconsidera-
tion. A vote Aye in favor of reconsid-
eration, a vote No a vote against. Oast your
vote.

(Whereupon, a roll call vote was taken.)

THE PRESIDENT: Has every delegate
voted?

Delegate Boileau.
DELEGATE BOILEAU: Aye.

THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Boileau
votes Aye. Has every other delegate voted ?
Does any delegate desire to change his
vote?

(There was no response.)
The Clerk will record the vote.

There being 71 votes in the affirmative
and 48 in the negative, the motion carries.
The vote by which Amendment No. 11 was
adopted is reconsidered.

The question now arises on the adoption
of Amendment No. 11. Delegate Hickman.

DELEGATE HICKMAN: Mr. President,
ladies and gentlemen, I hesitate to rise on
this occasion because it is getting late. But
I have not taken much time with this Con-
vention and I think that this is a very seri-
ous problem that we are considering now.
If the things that were brought out were
true as to what this would mean by taking
the transcript, I would certainly vote for it.
But the thing that will happen is that a few
of the delegates will get up and speak to
get their speeches in the transcript. Even-
tually what will happen will be that these
transcripts are sent back home for public
consumption and to keep the legislators in
office.

I would suggest that what is said on the
floor in the legislature has little to do with
the intent of a bill. I would suggest that
the amount of money which the transcript
will cost, and certainly as it goes along it
will snowball, would not be worth what the
people are saying to have it in the tran-
script. I suggest very few of you have read
the transcripts that have been taken here.
These transcripts are just as valuable
and I might say more so because things
are debated here more than they are in
the legislature.

It is true that in the legislature the de-
bates are in committee; most of the deci-
sions are made there. I would urge you to
vote in favor of the amendment to delete
the transcript.

THE PRESIDENT: Is there any further
discussion?

Delegate Gleason.

DELEGATE GLEASON: Mr. 'Chairman,
I will just take another moment of the Con-
vention's time.

Anyone who has attempted to look at the
meaning of a difficult piece of legislation —
of course we have had this in the State of
Maryland as elsewhere — has to resort, if he
intends to know the meaning of that law,
either to court decisions construing that
law, to Attorney General's opinions, or
to looking at the debate on the floor when
that law was passed. This has been done
as long as I have been practicing law, and
that is one purpose that is served by having
the transcript of the proceedings of the de-
bates in your houses of the legislature.

We are not talking here about having a
battery of reporters employed for a half
million dollars by the House of Delegates
and Senate. All this provision provides is
that a transcript shall be made. In this day
of great technical advances you can do this



 

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