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THE PRESIDENT: I am not sure I
follow you, Delegate Rybczynski. The two
Amendments No. 11 and No. 12 are not pre-
cisely the same.
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: No, except
one has to do with the actual compilation
of the transcript and the other merely pro-
vides for the publication.
THE PRESIDENT: That is right.
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: So what we
hoped was what the Chair had ruled origi-
nally that the two were part of the same
thing. However, what we suggest to the
delegates at this time is that one merely
follows the other. You deleted from what is
now section 3.19 the provision for a tran-
script for various reasons. The main reason
was the description of just how this is
done in the United States Congress. It be-
came quite apparent that this is a very
expensive proposition, one which is diffi-
cult to maintain if it is to be valuable, and
would serve no purpose unless a lot of mon-
ey were spent on the subject.
So that we would suggest to you that
since you do have Delegate Miller's motion
for reconsideration of Amendment No. 11
that we go ahead with Amendment No. 12
at this time, vote the same way, and if
there is going to be a full debate, let it be
on the reconsideration of Amendment No.
11 rather than do the same thing all over
again the second time.
THE PRESIDENT: You are suggesting,
if I follow you, that your amendment be
passed over at the present time and that
we act on the motion to reconsider the
vote by which Amendment No. 11 was
adopted ?
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: That will
be all right, Mr. President, and, of course,
I would like to address myself to the mo-
tion for reconsideration when it is before
the body.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well. For what
purpose does Delegate Gleason rise ?
DELEGATE GLEASON: I have a ques-
tion of the sponsor of the amendment,
please.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well. I am not
sure you want to put your question if you
understood what he said. He is willing to
have his amendment passed over at this
time until there is a vote taken on the mo-
tion to reconsider Amendment No. 11 on
the ground that if Amendment No. 11 is re-
considered and on reconsideration should
not be adopted, then his amendment would
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become not only unnecessary but improper.
Did you understand that?
DELEGATE GLEASON: Yes, I under-
stood that.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Rybczyn-
ski, do you yield to a question ?
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: Yes, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Gleason.
DELEGATE GLEASON: One of the pro-
blems is some of us were not here this past
weekend when this surprise amendment
was proposed by the delegate and his co-
sponsors. In his remarks he indicated some-
thing to the effect of how expensive this
procedure was. I wonder if he would en-
lighten us as to just precisely how ex-
pensive.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Gleason, I
think you are directing your question to the
matter of Amendment No. 11 rather than
Amendment No. 12. I suggest to you that
we proceed in the manner previously indi-
cated, pass over Amendment No. 12, hear
the discussion on the reargument of
Amendment No. 11 at which time your
question would be in order.
Delegate Gleason.
DELEGATE GLEASON: If the Chair-
man could advise me as to just whom I
might address that question to —
THE PRESIDENT: You may address it
to Delegate Rybczynski but not at this mo-
ment. You may still address it to him. For
what purpose does Delegate Koss rise ?
DELEGATE KOSS: A parliamentary in-
quiry. I had in my book Amendment No. 12
and also a roll call on Amendment No. 12,
LB-1, 2, and 3. Could that have been
moved up to Amendment No. 13 since that
time?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, apparently be-
cause of the fact that Amendment No. 12
offered by Delegate Rybczynski was not
printed, the Chair inadvertantly numbered
the next succeeding amendment, which was
W, as Amendment No. 12. It should have
been Amendment No. 13.
Amendment No. 12 is passed over in or-
der that the motion to reconsider the vote
by which Amendment No. 11 was adopted
may be considered. The Chair recognizes
Delegate Betty Miller who made the motion
to reconsider.
DELEGATE B. MILLER: Mr. Chairman
and fellow delegates, on Saturday after-
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