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wanted to make clear what Delegate Cardin
has said. I shall vote for this amendment,
because I think it is better than what
we have, but I shall vote in favor of
Amendment No. 5, deleting the whole
thing.
I have had prepared over the weekend
and submitted to the delegates a memoran-
dum which explains a little more fully
some of the legal implications in this mat-
ter, one of which is the matter of public
employees, and I have also prepared an
amendment which would differentiate be-
tween public employees and private em-
ployees, because I think that this is the
only way this can be handled. It has been
handled this way in every state where this
has been adopted. Therefore, while I will
vote for this amendment, I will still vote
in favor of abolishing the whole section.
THE PRESIDENT: Does any other
delegate desire to speak on the question?
Are you ready for the question?
(There was no response.)
The Clerk will ring the quorum bell.
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 13. This is, as the Chair
previously indicated, a perfecting amend-
ment to section 1.17 offered while Amend-
ment No. 5 is pending, and in no way af-
fects the status of Amendment No. 5 at
the moment.
Amendment No. 13 is before you. A vote
Aye is a vote in favor of the amendment.
A vote No is a vote against.
Cast your votes.
(WJicreupon, a roll call vote was taken.)
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Boileau.
DELEGATE BOILEAU: Please record
me as voting Aye, Mr. Chairman.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Boileau
votes Aye.
Has every delegate voted? Does any dele-
gate desire to change his vote?
The Clerk will record the vote.
Delegate Beatrice Miller.
DELEGATE B. MILLER: Mr. Chair-
man, I voted wrong. I am terribly sorry. I
voted No, and I meant to vote Aye. I am
sorry.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Beatrice
Miller's vote will be changed from No to
Aye.
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There being 121 votes in the affirmative
and 15 in the negative, the motion is car-
ried. Amendment No. 13 is adopted — I
am sorry; 122 votes in the affirmative and
15 in the negative, the motion is carried.
Amendment No. 13 is adopted.
The question still arises on Amendment
No. 5. Is there any further discussion?
(There was no response.)
Are you ready for the question?
Delegate Hostetter.
DELEGATE HOSTETTER: Mr. Presi-
dent, members of the convention, I do not
want to delay this any longer, but I still
urge the adoption of Amendment No. 5.
This amendment has not raised this provi-
sion to constitutional dimension. I think
this has been the argument and debate
from the very beginning. It makes a slight
change in it, and a slight change only. It
is still legislative in character, and I do
urge all the delegates to support Amend-
ment No. 5 and vote for it.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there any fur-
ther discussion? Are you ready for the
question?
(There was no response.)
The Clerk will ring the quorum bell.
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 5. Amendment No. 5 is an
amendment to delete the entire section 1.17.
A vote Aye is a vote in favor of the amend-
ment, that is, to delete. A vote No is a vote
against the amendment and would leave
1.17 as amended by Amendment No. 13 be-
for you. A vote Aye is a vote in favor of
Amendment No. 5, in favor of deletion. A
vote No is a vote against.
Cast your votes.
(W hereupon t a roll call vote was taken.)
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Boileau?
DELEGATE BOILEAU: Mr. President,
record me as voting No.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Boileau
votes No.
Has every delegate voted? Does any dele-
gate desire to change his vote?
The Clerk will record the vote.
There being 67 votes in the affirmative
and 67 votes in the negative, the motion
fails. Amendment No. 5 is rejected.
DELEGATE KIEFER: Mr. President.
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