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DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Marion.
DELEGATE MARION: I wonder if I
might address another question to Delegate
Boyer, please, sir.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Does
Delegate Boyer yield?
DELEGATE BOYER: Gladly.
DELEGATE MARION: Delegate Boyer,
I was one concerned about this entire sen-
tence when we went over this in the Com-
mittee on Style, and I am particularly
bothered by the word "proposal," where
we speak of something in a different con-
text from "amendment" in this last sen-
tence.
I wonder this: if the sentence reads the
way it originally came from your Commit-
tee as the Needle amendment would change
it if adopted right now, would that carry
about it the command of section 10.02 that
an amendment to the constitution proposed
by a constitutional convention must be pro-
posed by the affirmative vote of a majority
of all of the members of that convention?
In other words, is "proposal recom-
mended for changing the constitution" in
section 10.03 the same as "amendment" in
section 10.02, so that it is proposed only by
silent on the manner in which any proposal
is to be submitted to the voters by that
constitutional convention, and the majority
vote which it would take to accomplish
that purpose ?
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Boyer.
DELEGATE BOYER: I can see where
perhaps Delegate Marion and others are
confused about this.
Section 10.02 merely is a method of
amending the constitution. Section 10.03
deals with the calling of a constitutional
convention.
I think the best example I can give you,
probably, is what we are doing here. We
have made some proposals. We have of-
fered some resolutions. We have made
amendments. And I think that the proposal
referred to in line 47 of section 10.03 is
broader than a mere amendment to the
constitution.
When we are calling the constitutional
convention, there are many things that
could happen, more than just an amend-
ment, and any proposal recommended by
the convention for changing the constitu-
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tion can be adopted; but "proposal" is
broader than the actual technical word
"amendment" that is referred to in 10.02.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Marion.
DELEGATE MARION: Perhaps you can
tell me, then, or give me one illustration of
a proposal for changing the constitution.
This is not just a proposal adopted by the
convention, but a proposal for changing
the constitution, which is not in fact an
amendment to the constitution.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Boyer.
DELEGATE BOYER: One thing that
comes to my mind is, I believe, Resolution
17 introduced by Delegate Wheatley, which
calls for the submission to the voters of
the present constitution we are working
on in a severable part. What force and
effect a resolution has more than an amend-
ment that we might propose in this Con-
vention, I am not at liberty to tell you; but
this is one example that comes to my mind
of a resolution that might have the force
of an amendment, but yet it is not techni-
cally an amendment.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): I am
afraid Delegate Boyer has run out of time,
Delegate Marion.
Is there any further discussion ?
(There was no response.)
The question arises upon the adoption of
Amendment No. 2, offered by Delegates
Needle and Winslow.
(Whereupon, a roll call vote was taken.)
The Clerk will record the vote.
For what purpose does Delegate Boileau
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rise .
DELEGATE BOILEAU: May I be re-
corded as voting Aye? My key is not
working.
DELEGATE JAMES (presiding): Dele-
gate Bolieau votes Aye.
Has everyone recorded his vote ?
The Clerk will record the vote.
There being (>S votes in the affirmative
and 29 in the negative, the amendment is
adopted.
Are there any further amendments to
section 10.03 on style?
The Chair hearing none, we will proceed
to section 10.04, Effective Date of the Con-
stitution.
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