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[Dec. 30] DEBATES 3003

Does any delegate desire to change his
vote?

The Clerk will record the vote.

There being 88 votes in the affirmative
and none in the negative, the motion is car-
ried. The amendment is adopted.

Are there any other amendments to sec-
tion 3.09?

Any amendments to section 3.10?

Section 3.11?
Section 3.12?
Section 3.13?
Section 3.14?
Delegate Grumbacher.

DELEGATE GRUMBACHER: On 3.14
I have Amendment D, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: D as in David?

DELEGATE GRUMBACHER: As in
dammit.

THE PRESIDENT: Pages will please
distribute Amendment D — D for David.

Delegate Rosenstock.

DELEGATE ROSENSTOCK: Mr.
President, a point of personal privilege, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: State the privilege.

DELEGATE ROSENSTOCK: I would
appreciate if the Convention would join in
giving their usual welcome to my oldest
grandson, John Hawley, who has been at-
tending the sessions of the Convention the
last several days. He is sitting in the north
balcony.

(Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Frank
Robey.

DELEGATE ROBEY: Mr. President, a
point of personal privilege.

THE PRESIDENT: State the privilege.

DELEGATE ROBEY: I, too, would ap-
preciate the Convention would give a warm
welcome to the husband of Kathleen Robie,
Mr. William Robie, and her grandson,
Steven Scott Stevens.

I would like it to be noted for the record,
since Kathleen and I have had a noted bat-
tle about spelling our names, that Mr. Wil-
liam Robie's mother spells her name and
her maiden name as "Robey".

(Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: The Chair would
like also to recognize the presence in the
gallery of the honorable Senator Blair Lee
of Montgomery County. He has been a
visitor to the Convention quite often. We
are delighted to see him here again today,

(Applause.)
Delegate White.

DELEGATE WHITE: Mr. President, I
would like to recognize the young son of
Delegate Roy Borom who is up not too far
from the President.

I would also like to advise the Conven-
tion that the eyes of the NAACP are upon
you from the gallery at the rear, the hus-
band of that very fine delegate, the husband
of one individual, B. Clarence. Give him a
hand.

(Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Amendment No. 10.
The Clerk will read the amendment.

READING CLERK: Amendment No. 10,
to Committee Recommendation LB-1, LB-2
and LB-3 as amended by Report S&D-16,
by Delegate Grumbacher: On page 5, sec-
tion 3.14, Organization of General Assem-
bly, in line 24 after the word "officers"
insert the words: "by secret ballot".

THE PRESIDENT: The amendment is
submitted by Delegate Grumbacher. Is
there a second?

(Whereupon, the amendment was dull/
seconded.)

THE PRESIDENT: The amendment
having been seconded, the chair recognizes
Delegate Grumbacher.

DELEGATE GRUMBACHER: This
chestnut has been up and down the hill, to
coin a phrase, before. It was a close vote
the first time, a tie.

This secret ballot was used in the Con-
gress of the United States for the first
fifty years of our history. The founders of
the Republic were realists, they knew
where to set the balance that made the
Constitution what it is.

In their rules for open voting and ac-
countability on tangible issues, they were
quite satisfied that the bills and resolutions
be resolved by countervailing pressures,
but on decisions on leadership, no. The
intangibles of leadership and national di-
rection were and are too sensitive. When
policy and direction are tied to personality,
voting must be accurate in terms of con-



 

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