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I am not opposed to it, but I believe this
is very different from what the present
Constitution provides.
THE PRESIDENT: Except that it is
not as broad as you stated. It is limited to
an obligation for the support of such a de-
pendent if it is incorporated in a decree,
otherwise not.
DELEGATE KIEFER: Does it also in-
clude if it is by agreement incorporated in
a decree?
THE PRESIDENT: Incorporated in an
agreement approved by a decree, but there
must be a decree of court or there is no
obligation within the meaning of this
section.
Delegate Kiefer.
DELEGATE KIEFER: What I am say-
ing, sir, is that up until this time only those
people covered by the amendment or by the
section as we originally submitted it —
THE PRESIDENT: I understand. I
merely said that the statement you orig-
inally made was too broad. It did not ex-
tend to obligations for the support of all
dependents but only where the obligation
was either created by a decree or created
by an agreement incorporated into a decree.
DELEGATE KIEFER: I understand
that, sir, but that is still far beyond what
the present Constitution provides.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well. Are you
ready for the question? The Clerk will ring
the quorum bell.
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 9 to Committee Recom-
mendations R&I-1 and R&I-2 as amended
by S&D-9. A vote Aye is a vote in favor
of Amendment No. 9; a vote No is a vote
against. Cast your vote.
Has every delegate voted? Does any dele-
gate desire to change his vote? The Clerk
will record the vote.
There being 106 votes in the affirmative
and 5 in the negative, the motion is carried.
The amendment is adopted.
Delegate Betty Miller, the Chair was
advised you desired to make your motion
to reconsider at this time or after the
dinner hour?
DELEGATE B. MILLER: Mr. Chair-
man, if we were to reconsider now, could
we complete reconsideration? I would not
like to break before we could take a vote.
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THE PRESIDENT: We could not, if we
have extended debate. I have no idea of
whether it is intended there be further
debate.
DELEGATE B. MILLER: I would imag-
ine it would take about twenty minutes.
Could we meet for twenty minutes?
THE PRESIDENT: I should think so,
but I would not want to keep the person —
he is here from Richmond and has to go
back this evening. I gave him assurance
he could get in and I would not want to
keep him unduly.
DELEGATE B. MILLER: I think we
could do it in twenty minutes. I would ask
reconsideration of Amendment No. 5 at
this time.
THE PRESIDENT: If we do that, I
think there ought to be an understanding
that an equal number of persons on both
sides be recognized alternately and that
speeches be limited to two minutes. Would
that be agreeable?
DELEGATE B. MILLER: All right.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well. There is
a motion to reconsider the vote by which
Amendment No. 5 was adopted. Is the mo-
tion seconded?
(The motion was duly seconded.)
THE PRESIDENT: The motion having
been seconded, the question arises on the
motion to reconsider the vote by which
Amendment No. 5 was adopted. The Chair
will recognize delegates desiring to speak
in favor of or against the motion alter-
nately, limit each to two minutes, and the
discussion will be on the motion to recon-
sider or on the main question all at one
time.
Delegate White.
DELEGATE WHITE: Mr. President,
members of the Convention, in the gallery
facing the President we now have with us
my charming and talented wife, who is a
teacher at Douglass School in Baltimore,
Maryland, and her favorite brother, who
incidentally is my brother-in-law, Dr.
Emerson Julian recently elected to the Bal-
timore City Council. Let us make them
welcome.
(Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Immediately after
the vote to reconsider, if it passes, Amend-
ment No. 5 will be submitted to you with-
out further debate.
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