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DELEGATE ADKINS: Would the spon-
sor yield to a question if he has time ?
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Willoner,
do you take the floor .to yield to a question ?
DELEGATE WILLONER: I will yield.
THE PRESIDENT: This will be your
second speech and final one.
Delegate Adkins.
DELEGATE ADKINS: I would assume
by this amendment that you mean freedom
of information of public bodies. You do not
really mean what you say here, do you ?
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Willoner.
DELEGATE WILLONER: May I say
that the entire bill of rights goes to state
action and not individual action, and, there-
fore, it is public bodies that we are dis-
cussing4. These are rights between an in-
dividual and the state.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Willoner,
so the record will be clear, and I am not
sure whether this is covered or not, there
was a good deal of discussion at the time
of the consideration of this matter before
the Committee of the Whole as to whether
the provision then under consideration
would, for instance, require that records
now secret, like adoption records and so
forth, be open to the public. This provision
which you have, Amendment No. 7, does not
have any provision giving the General
Assembly the authority to define it. Follow-
ing Delegate Adkins question, is it intended
that freedom of information as used here
would extend, for instance, to court re-
cords, public records, and that sort, Dele-
gate Willoner?
DELEGATE WILLONER: It would apply
to public records and it would not apply
to the records that you suggested.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there any other
discussion ?
Ready for the question?
(Call for the question.)
The Clerk will sound the quorum bell.
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 7 to Committee Recom-
mendation R&P-1 and R&P-2 as amended
by S&D-9. A vote Aye is a vote in favor
of Amendment No. 7; a vote No is a vote
against.
Cast your votes.
Has every delegate voted?
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Does any delegate desire to change
his vote?
The Clerk will record the vote.
There being 30 votes in the affirmative
and 82 in the negative, the motion fails
and the amendment is rejected.
The Chair has no other amendments
sponsored by fifteen or more delegates.
We will go back and pick up consideration
of amendments sponsored by one or fewer
than fifteen delegates.
Delegate Carson, do you desire to sub-
mit your Amendment F, F for Frank ?
DELEGATE CARSON: Mr. Chairman, I
do not have it before me. Is that the one
with reference to the debt section ?
THE PRESIDENT: It is, it is the amend-
ment which in line 43 on page 3 would in-
sert the word ", providing" after the word
"court".
DELEGATE CARSON: Mr. Chairman, I
do have it now. Yes, I do offer it at this
time.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate Dulany,
would you still desire to offer your Amend-
ment Z?
DELEGATE DULANY: Yes, but I would
ask unanimous consent to delete every-
thing in the amendment (Laughter) — ex-
cepting one word.
THE PRESIDENT: What word?
DELEGATE DULANY: I would like to
delete everything after the colon in line 5,
all of lines (5 and 7, and substitute in lieu
thereof the word "dependent". This will
take two lines out of the constitution and
will do exactly what I wish to accomplish.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, the two amend-
ments go to the same lines, and I am trying
to determine which should be offered first
and the other offered as an amendment or
substitute.
I do not think the two are inconsistent.
I will submit Delegate Carson's amendment
first. Will the pages please distribute
Amendment F, F for Frank. This will be
Amendment No. 8. The Clerk will read the
amendment.
READING CLERK: Amendment No. 8
to Committee Recommendation R&P-1 and
R&P-2, as amended by Report No. S&D-9,
by Delegate Carson: On page 3, section
1.12, Imprisonment for Debt, in line 41 in-
sert a comma after the word "court"; and
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