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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Oct 25] DEBATES 291
THE PRESIDENT: Has every delegate
voted? Does any delegate desire to change
his vote?
(There was no response.)
If not, the Clerk will record the vote.
There being 89 votes in the affirmative
and 44 in the negative. The motion carries.
The amendment is adopted. The resolution
is amended by striking lines 6 and 7 on
page 2.
The question now arises on Resolution
18. The Chair recognizes Delegate White.
DELEGATE WHITE: Mr. President, I
refer to line 4 on page 2. I propose to
amend this by adding after the word
"further" as follows: "Resolved that dele-
gates who fail to attend a minimum of
four meetings weekly be denied the right
to vote."
THE PRESIDENT: The motion as the
Chair has it is that after the word
"further" in line 4 on page 2, a new para-
graph shall be added reading, "Resolved
that delegates who fail to attend a mini-
mum of four meetings weekly shall be de-
nied the right to vote." Is there a second?
(The vote was duly seconded.)
THE PRESIDENT: The motion is made
and seconded. The Chair recognizes Dele-
gate Dukes.
DELEGATE DUKES: Mr. President,
I am not clear about the motion made.
Does it mean he can not vote during the
week—
THE PRESIDENT: Let me break in,
Delegate Dukes, to ask you and through
you to ask that all delegates please indi-
cate when you rise whether you are ask-
ing a question or debating the question.
DELEGATE DUKES: I have a question
of the maker of the motion.
THE PRESIDENT: Question to Dele-
gate White. Please state the question.
DELEGATE DUKES: I am not clear
what the motion means, as to whether a
man missing four meeting in a week could
not vote that week or the week after or
thereafter. Does a meeting with more than
two members of the committee constitute a
meeting? Please explain what you are try-
ing to do.
THE PRESIDENT: Delegate White.
DELEGATE WHITE: I was attempting
to react to the reasoning that was given
by the maker of the previous resolution
that he compared the right to vote on the
part of the delegate who is serving on
more than one committee. He alluded in
his discussion to a delegate who is absent
from committee meetings where hearings
are held and where he does not participate
in discussion which leads to the vote which
is possibly final.
1 admit that the number of four was an
arbitrary figure, but I had in mind having
this Convention express its sense on the
right of a person who is continuously ab-
sent to come in and vote on an equal basis
with the people who have studied and de-
bated and listened continuously. That was
the sense I wanted to get before you.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there any further
discussion of the motion to amend? Dele-
gate Scanlan.
DELEGATE SCANLAN: I move the
previous question on Delegate White's
amendment.
THE PRESIDENT: Is there a second
to the motion?
DELEGATE SHERBOW: Mr. President,
I would like to ask a question, if I may,
before that motion is put.
THE PRESIDENT: Ask your question.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I would like
to know from the Chair whether such a
motion to include the language Delegate
White has suggested is proper in light of
the fact that all of the "whereas" clauses
relate to the situation respecting those
delegates who have more than one vote,
the next two "resolved" relate only to dele-
gates having this special capacity, whereas
his resolution for the third paragraph now
changes the entire contest of the original
resolution to include all 142 members. I
suggest that this would be out of order
under these circumstances.
THE PRESIDENT: The Chair had un-
der consideration the question of whether
the motion was germane, and it might very
well be ruled that the motion is not ger-
mane for the reasons stated by Delegate
Sherbow. However, in support of the main
resolution, the argument is made that the
delegates who were members of more than
one committee could not. attend all meetings
and therefore should not have the right to
vote. I, therefore, resolve the question of
the motion being germane in favor of the
committee. The motion was to move the
previous question. Is there a second?
(The motion was duly seconded.)


 
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