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THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Lloyd Tay-
lor.
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: You stated
that if public employees were included
under this provision that this would en-
danger the right of the public.
Do you know that in the State of Mary-
land most of the state hospitals are or-
ganized?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weide-
meyer.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: If they
are organized now, there are certain pieces
of legislation that protect the hospital and
the State of Maryland. If you put this
constitutional Amendment No. 21 in, as you
have done, you have taken away the right
of the legislature to restrict and legislate
in those fields. I say that Amendment No.
21 is absolutely unnecessary because the
legislature can act in those fields and here
you freeze it in that they cannot act in all
of those areas.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Taylor.
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: I would like
to have you answer this other question.
For instance, according to this union
paper we have a listing of meetings of
various locals at the various state institu-
tions and, of course, we have included the
Harbor Tunnel, Western Maryland Col-
lege —
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Taylor,
Delegate Weidemeyer has only thirty sec-
onds left, can you make your question
short?
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: Are you
aware of this fact, that there are many
organizations of unions at the state hos-
pitals and other state institutions?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weide-
meyer.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: I recog-
nize that they have their associations and
organizations but I recognize also that
there is no constitutional prohibition
against the legislature making proper leg-
islation to control certain areas and phases
of it.
What you have done by Amendment No.
21 is close the door in the face of the
legislature so they cannot legislate and if
they do legislate it, it would make it un-
constitutional.
If you will remember, I asked one of the
representatives from one of the state in-
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stitutions, supposing the employees of state
mental hospitals would organize and the
State could not regulate in those areas and
the workers did not get what they wanted
and they walked out? Who would take care
of those mental patients? Who would feed
them? Would they starve?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weide-
meyer, your time has expired.
Delegate Taylor.
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: Delegate
Weidemeyer did not answer the main ques-
tion that I was trying to get at.
At the present time we have in the State
of Maryland various unions —
THE CHAIRMAN: To whom is this
question addressed?
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: This question
is addressed to the Chair.
THE CHAIRMAN: State the inquiry.
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: We have
unions located at Springfield Hospital, Bal-
timore City Police Department, Mont-
gomery County city departments.
If Delegate Weidemeyer's amendment is
adopted would it prevent these particular
groups from their activities at these state
institutions?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Taylor, the
Chair has real hesitancy in even attempting
to answer that question the way you put it,
because I am afraid any answer I gave
would be misleading to you.
I would answer it with a simple no, but
that may be misleading to you, I do not
think it is the kind of question that you
should address to the Chair.
Delegate Taylor.
DELEGATE L. TAYLOR: At the pres-
ent time we have union organization rep-
resenting state employees and Delegate
Weidemeyer's amendment would prevent
the state employees from being organized
and this is what I asked the question about.
THE CHAIRMAN: I do not think, as
the Chair understands the amendment and
the explanation, that the amendment as
it is drawn with the article that is added
would bar anybody from doing anything.
That is why I answered you with a short
no. The effect of it, as the Chair under-
stands it at least, would be to take away
from the class of employees mentioned in
the amendment that is before you, Amend-
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