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workload is directly proportional to popu-
lation of the County and population is
growing very rapidly.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
The Chair recognizes Delegate Schloeder.
Delegate Schloeder, you have eight and a
half minutes left to allot.
DELEGATE SCHLOEDER: Thank you,
sir.
At this time the Committee yields three
minutes to Delegate Rybczynski.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
The Chair recognizes Delegate Rybczynski.
DELEGATE RYBCZYNSKI: Mr. Chair-
man, we have heard a lot of talk about im-
provements with no regard to the degree of
money. Today, or last night for the first
time, we talked about how much all this is
going to cost. I would suggest that if the
cost of $18,000 or $20,000 to the county
every four years is going to be a major
consideration, let's start from page one
and do this all over again.
We are talking about visibility and about
getting quality in office. After all the testi-
mony that we heard, we concluded that
perhaps the system used in the City of Bal-
timore is the best one after all. No one
has attempted last night or today to an-
swer the example given about Ruby's
theory, or whatever that name was, up in
North Carolina about the ferry boat com-
ing into the dock. What do you do about
the situation where a bad candidate on a
local level attaches himself to a good can-
didate on the state or national level? He
merely rides in on the coattails and no one
realizes what they have done for the first
six months. After that, they wonder how
they could have been so stupid in the first
place to elect him to office. But that's the
way it is done. It is done nationally and
and we are trying to stop it by what we
have done in our majority recommendation.
Using Delegate Hanson's theory of at-
taching the two levels of government to-
gether, let us say we carry this to the
ultimate. Why do we not simply have one
election every four years? That way we can
elect everybody from the president to the
dogcatcher and put everybody into one ca-
boodle. If we worry about congressmen
every two years, we can use a system of
commissioners and have commissioners
picking the Congressmen during the off-
year election time.
Ladies and gentlemen, we gave this thing
a lot of thought. We considered it from
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every aspect. We worried about the money.
We worried about visibility. After listening
to all testimony, we concluded the best way
to do this thing is to make every candidate
on every level stand on his own two feet.
If he has a good program, if he can sell
it to the people, he will get himself elected.
He will not merely be the residue of a
larger ticket on the next higher scale.
I would like to answer just one more
argument put forth by the minority. Using
offices as stepping stones appears to be a
terrible thing. This goes on again at every
level. United States senators run for presi-
dent. Governors run for president. There is
no harm in this. I find good in this. I find
good in the fact that a man would use his
experience and his time in office as a step-
ping stone for the next higher office. I find
this good and not bad. We ask you to sup-
port the majority recommendation.
Thank you.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
The Chair recognizes Delegate Byrnes to
allot two minutes.
DELEGATE BYRNES: I would like to
withhold those two until Delegate Schloeder
has completed.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Delegate Schloeder.
DELEGATE SCHLOEDER: Mr. Chair-
man, at this time, the Committee would like
to yield three minutes to Delegate Dulany.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
The Chair recognizes Delegate Dulany.
DELEGATE DULANY: Mr. Chairman,
fellow delegates, what we are trying to do
here is to establish, I think, strong local
government that will set its own policy and
one where the people will be aware of the
problems.
I think this is one area where we can
help that. I think we should look at the
cold, practical politics for a minute and not
be ridiculous when we say it makes no dif-
ference on whose ticket you run. I well
know from my political experience that
some will pay dearly to get on someone's
ticket if it is the right ticket. It makes no
difference if the ticket includes a national
or state candidate, or if the candidate is
running in a local election.
I know, for example, in our county of a
person who got on a ticket merely to fill a
slot, and was carried into office. He re-
signed after being elected because he did
not want the office. He was on a winning
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