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have to be a part of the budget. He is
required by law, or by this constitution, to
provide in his budget for that particular
program, and it is then an ordinary part of
the program. But it is off, of course, for
over a year.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
The Chair recognizes Delegate Hanson.
DELEGATE HANSON: Judge Sherbow,
I see that my colleague, Delegate Scanlan,
is here. Maybe I should leave this first
question to him. I know that many of the
authorities on constitutional revision are
very much concerned about the length of
articles dealing with the budget, one say-
ing, for example, that some states, Mary-
land, for example, have solidified far too
much detail on the executive budget proce-
dures into their basic law.
This goes back to Delegate Maurer's
question. As techniques and criteria for
budgeting are constantly being refined, the
need for flexibility requires that constitu-
tional treatment of the subject he sparse.
I wonder in terms of a general question
why we need all this detail on the budget
in the constitution?
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding):
Delegate Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: The only an-
swer I can give you is that with all of the
benefit and the vast experience that nearly
all of the members, or most of the members
of this Committee have had in this field,
and the vast education the other members
obtained during the time they were on this
Committee, based on the remarkable experi-
ence the State of Maryland has had since
1917, based on the results of what we have
in our effort to bring it up to date, to
tighten it where we can, to bring it in line
with the modern concept as it is now being
developed by this constitution, we felt that
it was necessary to spell out all that we
have spelled out.
We feel we ought not to eliminate what
is in here simply in order to perhaps sim-
plify, because we do not think that would
be simplifying it. It is not that we are
wedded to words, not that we are wedded
to the end result of our product. We think
it is right and correct.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Delegate Hanson.
DELEGATE HANSON: Is it not correct
that Maryland probably places more re-
strictions upon the budgetary process in
its constitution than any other state?
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DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Delegate Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I would say
Maryland has an executive budget which
the people are not only proud of, but they
are happy with it. My own judgment, with-
out having taken a Gallup poll, is that they
are more than pleased with the result, and
I do not believe either the legislature, past
governor, or the present governor, would
want to see any substantial change made in
the philosophy of the executive budget.
The only changes they ever suggest deal
with matters of detail as they relate to
this aspect or that aspect and not as to its
philosophy.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding):
Delegate Hanson.
DELEGATE HANSON: I do not believe
that that was the answer to my question,
which was: is it not true that Maryland,
assuming that the philosophy stayed the
same, still has more detail in its constitu-
tion regarding the executive budget than
any other state?
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Judge Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I cannot an-
swer you, because all the studies I made of
all other state budgets are now rolled into
an amalgam that I do not even think about
because I cannot even mentally put my
mind on what the other states have done.
If we are longer than theirs, maybe they
are shorter than us on other things. If we
are shorter than theirs, maybe they are
longer than us on other things. I do not
think this is a basis, really, for a deter-
mination of this particular matter.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Delegate Hanson.
DELEGATE HANSON: I am interested
in what you and your Committee consider
the essential elements of philosophy of the
executive budget. You referred to it sev-
eral times. I think it would be helpful to
all of us to get those basic philosophical
and necessary elements of the executive
budget well in mind.
DELEGATE J. CLARK (presiding) :
Judge Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I would not
really want to take the time of this as-
semblage to go into details of this, but I
would urge, Delegate Hanson, that you and
everybody else who I know are interested
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