|
with payoffs or with daily doubles or with
quinnella or with numbers operations or
50-50, raffles of clothes and turkeys and
bingo and also grab prize machines and
any number of other things that we in
Maryland have not considered evil?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Sherbow.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: If you are
asking me did the Committee consider all
of those things, I must say that I cannot
speak for what the rest of the Committee
did but on some of those items, I know we
talked about them. We resolved that what
we were dealing with was the issue of lot-
tery, not the other issues.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weide-
meyer.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: I can un-
derstand where if a man goes to church
and wants to get salvation without paying
anything into the plate, he might get some-
thing for nothing. But I cannot understand
the position of the Committee. Did your
Committee also give consideration to the
fact that if a referendum provision were
such that the people could take a bill out on
referendum and the people of Maryland
did not want anything passed by the legis-
lature, the referendum provisions were lib-
eralized enough so that they could easily
vote on it and determine that issue?
DELEGATE SHERBOW: Yes, we con-
sidered that because we had before us the
referendum of 1938 where there was pre-
sented to the people of Maryland the ques-
tion whether this provision should be taken
out of the Constitution and the people
voted 123,365 to 90,850 to let the restric-
tion stay in.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weidc-
meyer.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Delegate
Sherbow, I notice you read from the Wash-
ington Post but did you read from the
Washington Post on November 26, 1967?
DELEGATE SHERBOW: If I did, I do
not recall.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Mr. Lan-
dau, Commissioner of the State Lottery of
Israel, said Israel, a small state, made 13
million out of theirs and the only reason
New Hampshire and New York were not
making money out of it was they did not
know how to run it.
(Laughter.)
DELEGATE SHERBOW: All I can say
is on behalf of the little State of Israel,
|
that's not the only thing they think they
know how to do. They have been right suc-
cessful lately.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Weide-
meyer.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Would
you not consider them good businessmen?
(Laughter.)
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I would say
this. That when it comes to preserving
one's homeland, when it comes to preserv-
ing one's life from overwhelming odds,
when everybody rises up to defend, they
are without question completely successful.
Whether or not they are good or bad
businessmen, the world will have to judge
by reason of the fact that a large over-
whelming portion of what they need for
survival must come from outside that same
little state.
DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: We ought
not overlook the fact when they are doing
all these good things they have the busi-
ness acumen to raise the money.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I overlook
nothing that I think will establish what I
am hoping will be a good constitution.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Ross.
DELEGATE ROSS: Delegate Sherbow,
I would like to pursue, if I might, your
reply to Delegate Cardin. Can I assume
from your answer that if you get a bonus
ticket of some sort or other from a grocery
store or gas station that is dependent upon
your either buying something at the gro-
cery store or gas from the gas station that
that indeed is a lottery and would be
banned by this language.
DELEGATE SHERBOW: I can only
say to you that if what you g%et is not in
the nature of a bonus, because I can offer
you $10 worth of merchandise and say if
you buy $11 worth, I will throw in two
extra eggs, that is another story. However,
if it depends on the wheels of chance oper-
ating and in order for you to participate
in the results of the wheels of chance, you
have to buy something or give up some-
thing of value, the answer is that that is
a lottery.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Ross, any
further questions? Delegate Mosner.
DELEGATE MOSNER: Judge Sherbow,
I want to make this statement for the
record. I have been informed by one of the
delegates that all information you gave us
|
