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taking out the phrase "unless otherwise
provided by law". I truly think that setting
up the state board of education would come
under the education article. I think educa-
tion is provided for in the Committee Re-
port and my only effort was directed to-
ward a decision on the question of whether
we were to have single executives for all
agencies other than education. I would sug-
gest that this is the key phrase that we
are voting on, and if you want single ex-
ecutives other than education, you support
Dr. Bard's amendment. If you prefer to
have a choice of whether you have boards
in education and elsewhere, then you vote
against Dr. Bard's amendment. I shall vote
against Dr. Bard's amendment.
Thank you.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the way you
stated it, Delegate Maurer, you had it in
the converse, not as to your voting but as
to the effect of it. If you desire to have the
legislature determine whether the head of
a principal department should be a single
executive or a board, you would vote for
Delegate Bard's amendment.
Delegate Storm.
DELEGATE STORM: This little new
amendment that has been offered, it seems
to me, brings in one other thing that you
may not want to bring in. The present gov-
ernor and administration, I believe, has a
formidable persuader or someone in the
education field who is trying to get all the
folks in education working together so that
they will be more efficient.
Now, the Committee, I believe, has pro-
tected boards of education well enough so
that we are going to have the board of
education actually run the school system
and the board of regents run the University
of Maryland and those boards will appoint
their chief administration officers. This is
in line with what the legislature has al-
ready done. They have set up the legisla-
tive system which we have. You see our
present Constitution does not provide for
much of this, but I believe if you vote away
from the Committee Report you even pre-
vent the executive from trying to get the
boards of education and others interested
in education all working together. I submit
that the perfect answer to this, if there is
one, is to support the committee position.
The next perfect answer would be to
support Dr. Bard's position, so I suppose
that is about as confused as I can make it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Marion.
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DELEGATE MARION: Mr. Chairman,
I apologize for finding it easier to spring
up out of my chair than Delegate Harry
Taylor has found it, but I wonder if I
might address a question either to you or
Delegate Morgan, perhaps to Delegate Mor-
gan. If this language which we are now
considering in the Bard amendment is
adopted now and subsequently by the adop-
tion of the Maurer amendment or the
adoption of your Committee Report and if
the legislature pursuant to that language
does provide for departments to be headed
by boards, is it within the power of the
governor under the reorganization system
which is outlined in another section to
change that structure of the operation of
a department from one run by a board to
one run by a single executive?
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Morgan.
DELEGATE MORGAN: The answer to
your question is yes, Delegate Marion.
(Applause.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Grum-
bacher.
DELEGATE GRUMBACHER: Mr.
Chairman, I just wish to tell you that I am
ready for the question and have been for
quite awhile.
THE CHAIRMAN: May we proceed to
the question, then?
The question arises on the adoption —
will the Clerk ring the quorum bell, sir?
DELEGATE SYBERT: Mr. Chairman.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Sybert.
DELEGATE SYBERT: Before we vote
will you give us the exact amendment on
which we are voting.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Della.
DELEGATE DELLA: I would like to
know from Delegate Morgan his position
and his Committee's position as to the
amendment on the amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Morgan.
DELEGATE MORGAN: Mr. Chairman,
I am opposed to both amendments and in
favor of the Committee's position.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Della.
DELEGATE DELLA: That is all I want
to know.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you ready for
the question?
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