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Proceedings and Debates of the 1967 Constitutional Convention
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[Nov. 30] DEBATES 1481

you say that the Eney Commission lost its
nerve and did not go far enough, and you
admit, that they were right in not going
completely to the dead end street. The
Commission cut it off at say "S" Street
since you are more familiar with Washing-
ton, but I suggest that we cut it off at "M"
Street and give the legislature the right,
not to mess with education now because I
want that given immunity, but to give
someone else a little immunity here and
there; maybe someone else is deserving of
having a commission or a board headed,
and this is a very selfish and untrusting
thing to do. I hope this Convention will not
adopt this amendment.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.

DELEGATE PULLEN: Mr. Chairman,
first may I tell my colleague to stop using
cough drops.

Mr. Chairman, in all seriousness, I am
not sure what this means. It says that "ex-
cept for the public school system and the
institution of higher learning, the head of
the principal departments" et cetera.

Senator Storm, I say this in the most
friendly fashion, but it seems to me that
that simply precludes the possibility of
there being a state board of education or
board of regents of the University of
Maryland.

This calls for a principal head, this one
individual. What we want is not the per-
sonal immunity, God knows we do not need
that, in that particular position, but to
have a board that decides, selects and con-
trols, if you please, the professional head
of the organization.

Now, I think we ought to get clear what
we are voting on first.

THE CHAIRMAN : Delegate Pullen, the
Chair suggests to you that you have com-
pletely misunderstood Delegate Storm's
point, and perhaps the effect of Delegate
Maurer's amendment.

The effect, if the Chair properly under-
stood your comment, would seem to me to
be exactly the converse of what you just
said.

Delegate Pullen.

DELEGATE PULLEN: Mr. Chairman,
I have known this gentleman and loved him
for thirty years. I do not misunderstand
him one bit.

THE CHAIRMAN: Very well.

DELEGATE PULLEN: No, but Mr.
Chairman, let's look at this matter again.
I am no lawyer, but I can read the English
language, and it says a principal head.
That does not mean a board, does it? Does
it include a corporate head or a group?

THE CHAIRMAN : The point that Sena-
tor Storm made as the Chair understood
it, was that the sentence, as re- written un-
der the proposed amendment would require
that there be a single executive at the head
of every principal department, except the
state public school system and institutions
of higher education. In other words, that
there would not be a single executive at the
head of the state public school system or
of institutions of higher education.

Delegate Storm's point was that you
were not permitting the legislature to pro-
vide that a board could be at the head of
some principal department, other than the
state board of education and the institu-
tions of higher education.

Is that your point, Delegate Storm?

DELEGATE STORM: Yes, sir, and I
am sure as soon as we get this resolved if
I need another cough drop he is going to
give it to me.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.

DELEGATE PULLEN: Mr. Chairman,
I would have no objection to having boards
for all of them. It might be better. That
is not the point at all. What Mrs. Maurer,
and I think those who are interested, or all
of us are driving at is this, that we wanted
the board and the chief professional officer
not to be selected politically or by any de-
vice except by a board. We do not care if
all the rest of this goes into that or not.

THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen, the
Chair suggests to you the first sentence in
section 4.20 as rewritten in the amendment
would not apply at all to the state public
school system or institutions of higher
education.

Delegate James.

DELEGATE JAMES: Mr. Chairman,
that is in 4.21. The education people are
very well taken care of there in this
article. They are in a very preferred posi-
tion, if you would read the article.

THE CHAIRMAN: That is what I un-
derstood Delegate Maurer to point out
some time ago. This section, Delegate Pul-
len, if amended, as provided in the amend-
ment offered by Delegate Maurer, would



 

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