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DELEGATE PULLEN: My next ques-
tion, sir, is this: Would you have the gov-
ernor rely upon the estimates of the Budget
Bureau, the head of which is required to
have no educational or professional quali-
fications?
DELEGATE ADKINS: I would require
him to rely on such personnel as the gov-
ernor of this State elected by the people
saw fit to vest without authority. If he
feels that an education is not necessary,
then I think that is a matter that the peo-
ple can call him to account for later.
I cannot conceive that a governor of this
State competent to be governor and to re-
ceive the endorsement of more than fifty
per cent of the elected voters would act
in that irresponsible manner that you
suggest.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: I am not sug-
gesting, sir. I am asking you for facts.
Would you turn over the estimates of in-
come to the Budget Bureau who is an
appointee of the governor?
DELEGATE ADKINS: I would vest it
in the executive branch in such manner as
the governor in the discharge of his respon-
sibilities thought necessary to perform the
function, yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: Could you be
more precise, sir?
DELEGATE ADKINS: I do not really
see how I can be much more precise.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: That is what I
am afraid of. You quoted —
DELEGATE ADKINS: I am not gov-
ernor, Doctor. If I were governor, I could
be more precise.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: You referred to
the Rubicon. I go back to Rome, too. I have
had some experience with the budgets, and
there is a statement which goes something
like this: "Not being ignorant of misfor-
tune, I have learned to pity those who
have misfortune." I have learned some-
thing of this power that you are talking
about. When Mr. McKeldin was governor,
I thanked God for Governor Tawes.
THE CHAIRMAN: The questions are
supposed to be directed to the Vice-Chair-
man of the Committee. Opportunity for de-
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bate will be afforded you later. Delegate
Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: This is not a
debate, sir. This is just a statement of
fact to lay the grounds for a question.
Now, the next questions, when Mr. Tawes
was governor, I thanked God for Louie
Goldstein.
Now, that is said with kindness to all of
them. The question I have here is, you
are centering, if I understand it, all power
of handling the budget in one individual.
May I ask you a simple question about the
power of the governor?
DELEGATE ADKINS: May I correct
your assumption, which is not accurate.
We are vesting the power of the budget in
the governor and the elected representa-
tives of the people, meeting in the General
Assembly; so it is not fair to say that the
power is vested in one person.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: I accept that as
a legalistic answer.
Sir, do you know that the governor of
Maryland has control over the salaries of
every department head, of the present pres-
ident of the University of Maryland, of
every college president, of every college
teacher, anyone who works for the State
who does not come under the present stand-
ard salary board; is that not correct?
DELEGATE ADKINS: I think if I un-
derstand your multi-headed question, it is
not correct. The salary at the University of
Maryland is established by the Board of
Regents at the University of Maryland;
the salary of many of the other heads of
departments is established by the legisla-
ture, and it is in no sense established by
the governor.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen.
DELEGATE PULLEN: I respectfully
refer you, however, to attorney general
opinions to the contrary. The governor of
Maryland does control the salaries of these
people in that —
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Pullen, you
are still concerned with questions to the
Vice-Chairman.
DELEGATE PULLEN: I realize that,
Mr. Chairman, but if he does not know
what I am talking about, he cannot answer.
THE CHAIRMAN: You will have the
opportunity to debate that question later.
Right now, questions, please.
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