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Secondly, it puts an unnecessary limita-
tion on the governor, which I do not think
is warranted. In the third place, it makes
a judgeship in this area a far more difficult
thing to aspire to, if only five people are
eligible for a particular vacancy.
I believe this amendment would alleviate
some of the fear and trepidation that
people have about this whole plan, and the
limitation on the governor.
I frankly think that this does not defeat
your program, Delegate Mudd. I am all in
favor of it, but I do believe it provides in
heavily populated areas a little bit more
leniency, a little bit more freedom of
choice, a little bit more ability to aspire to
the judgeships. I frankly would hope that
you will adopt the amendment.
THE CHAIRMAN: Delegate Mudd.
DELEGATE MUDD: Mr. Chairman, I
rise reluctantly to oppose the amendment
here proposed by my good friends Kiefer
and Dukes. However, we are now playing
the game of numbers again.
I feel the spirit in which this amend-
ment was offered and the purpose it is in-
tended to accomplish is laudable. The mat-
ter was discussed in our Committee, and
though we did not get as high as number
ten, we did discuss the numbers two to
seven, or seven as a maximum on the list,
and that apparently was discussed at some
length. My notes show that a proposal or
motion made in our Committee to make the
list not less than two and not more than
seven received only two votes. There were
13 votes against it, and four abstaining.
Accordingly, I can assure the members
of the Committee of the Whole that we
did consider the advisability of enlarging
the number and for the very reasons sug-
gested by Delegate Kiefer, but it was our
conclusion, by majority vote, that the num-
ber five allowed for the latitude that we
felt was necessary under these proposals
and overall recommendation.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does any other dele-
giate desire to speak in favor of the amend-
ment?
Does any other delegate desire to speak
in opposition?
Are you ready for the question? The
Clerk will sound the quorum bell.
The question arises on the adoption of
Amendment No. 29. A vote Aye is a vote
in favor of the amendment. A vote No is
a vote against.
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Cast your votes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Has every delegate
cast his vote?
Does any delegate desire to change his
vote?
The Clerk will record the vote.
THE CHAIRMAN: There being 42 votes
in the affirmative and 75 in the negative,
the motion is lost. The amendment fails.
Are there any other amendments to sec-
tion 5.14? Are there any amendments to
section 5.14? Delegate Beatrice Miller.
DELEGATE B. MILLER: Mr. Chair-
man, I have an amendment to section 5.14
which I gave about five minutes ago to the
Clerk.
THE CHAIRMAN: It has not been
printed then, if it was just five minutes
ago. We will pass on to section 5.15 and
come back to it.
Delegate Gleason.
DELEGATE GLEASON: Mr. Chair-
man, I have an amendment to section 5.14
which should be on your desk.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have it, Mr.
Clerk?
READING CLERK: No, sir.
THE CHAIRMAN: How long ago was
it printed? Was it before today or in the
past half-hour?
DELEGATE GLEASON: It was sub-
mitted immediately after we adjourned,
after dinner.
THE CHAIRMAN: We will check up
on it.
We still have a good many amendments.
The Chair would like to finish this section
of the article this evening. We will proceed
to section 5.15 and come back to 5.14.
Amendment CI. The pages will please
distribute it. Delegate Chabot, do you still
desire to offer the amendment?
DELEGATE CHABOT: No.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do not distribute it.
Any delegates who have passed up
amendments to the Clerk and no longer de-
sire to offer them, would you please notify
the Clerk?
Delegate Fornos, do you still desire to
offer your amendment AD?
DELEGATE FORNOS: Yes, sir.
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