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am sorry, but I must pursue my question, Chairman Kiefer

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has not answered my question.

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How much consideration was given to this

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substitute? Is it the substitute of the committee which

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considered the language, or is it an amendment as would

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be presented by Delegate Kiefer, or any other delegate,

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and which we would consider in that light?

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DELEGATE KIEFER: I do not d eny the pattern of

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this. This is my idea, but I will say the concept of what

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was to be in this -- the committee adopted the concept of

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the right to know, but I don't remember that any specific

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language was completely spelled out.

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There was a lot of confusion about this, because

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it was withdrawn by Delegate Hostetter, but there were

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a number of efforts made to write something into our

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recommendations, and this particular one, as a matter of

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fact, was originally introd ued to the committee by

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Delegate Weidemeyer, so we had a great deal of thought and

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a great deal of conversation and a great deal of debate

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and there was not any particular set forth.

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The minority report so far as I know was not