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DELEGATE JAMES: Delegate Bothe.

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DELEGATE BOTHE: Delegate Weidemeyer, did the

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Committee on Personal Rights hear any evidence or find

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any evidence that there was a need to constitutionize

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the grand jury system in the state?

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DELEGATE WEIDEMEYER: Well, I do not know

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that we discussed — well, we did consider that too and

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you were there at the hearings aid certainly if you are

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removing one provision of the Declaration of Rights which

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gives the defendant the right, by implication, and our pro-

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cedure has been there, by removing that provision in Article

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XXI , we intended that that right to the indictment by grand

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jury in certain cases be continued and be guaranteed.

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That is all we intended, that it be not taken

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away. We had knowledge of the fact that the Maryland,

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the rules of the Maryland Court of Appeals, 708 and 709 had

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been passed dealing with this subject, but we know that the

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legislature can give one day and take away the next.

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We. wanted it Constitutionally guaranteed.

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DELEGATE BOTHE: Delegate Weidemeyer,

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I understood you to say that we had taken away